12th June 2003, 5:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Nintendarse
You're looking for proof in one direction when you fail to realize that there is no proof to support your opinion. I read 5 of those reports and none of them undoubtedly supported your claim that gayness is not genetically linked. In fact, I will quote one of your "sources."
[B]Rice himself doesn’t discount the idea of a genetic link to homosexuality. He just doesn’t think Xq28 is the spot. “The search for genetic factors in homosexuality should continue,” he says, adding that he’s currently searching for other genes that could be linked to sexuality.
But where do these traits come from? Aren't they inherited?
We do not know yet. Some may be. Or rather, we do not know how much is inherited, and which elements are direct and which merely further associated and linked with other yet more fundamental traits. But you are getting the picture. That is how the research ought to proceed. It
is not necessarily that the traits that facilitate homosexuality are themselves bad; perhaps many are gifts. Athleticism is a generally good thing, and we think highly of people who satisfy their athletic impulses as, say, outstanding BBPs. Not so the fellow who merely becomes a thug.
None of the sources you point out seem to make any claim that, "The fact is that the chance of there being a gay gene is practically nil."
So, let's assume that being gay is genetic. What makes being gay any more of a defect than having brown hair? Or having blue eyes? Having darker skin tone? With obesity, it's clear. Obesity directly causes the individual to have adverse health consequences. With gayness, it's not clear. Nothing about gayness makes one biologically unhealthy. There is the "natural" argument, that it is the inherent nature of males to screw females for the survival of the species, but what makes animal homosexual behavior unnatural? Does God punish these animals? I mean, this is the same argument that slave owners had: being born black means that God hates you, it is a defect, and so you don't deserve the same rights as white people.
But there are some inherent questions that Weltall mentions. Regardless of how much it is a choice, should gay people have the same rights as straight people? To marry? To have consentual intercourse? To fight for the country? These are not "special" rights. These are simply rights that people take for granted. [/B]
My claim is that it's not genetic. These sources mostly deal with the fact that there is no evidence to support genetic homosexuality. What part of that are you missing? The claim that it is genetic is unfounded. There is no credible evidence supporting such a theory. Thus, it cannot be passed as fact, or even remotely close. It's not to say that someday research may prove me wrong, it just seems pretty unlikely that will happen. These findings support my opinion by disproving yours. I mean, if you can find some scientific studies that prove it's genetic, I'm all eyes. Those sources are proof that there is no known genetic link, and that proves my point.
On the second note, I do not believe gay people deserve some of those rights by virtue of the choice they make. I do not believe in gay marriage, as marriage is an union between a man and a woman that creates a family, and is a very important thread in the fabric of society, and allowing homosexuals to participate in that tarnishes the morals upon which they were founded. I really do not care if they can fight or not (which is a special right actually, and discriminates based on sex and age, i.e. women cannot become combat soldiers, nor can people over the age limit).
Again, choices have consequences, and homosexuals should consider them before they adopt that lifestyle.
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