7th June 2003, 2:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Um, you don't really make sense... why would it be true that because you see other people as attractive your urge to want children would go too? They are obviously not linked that closely... because it doesn't work that way. Just because you see the same gender as attractive you should have lost your urge to have/raise children? Huh?
Well, if you lose your urge to create a child, wouldn't it go without saying? It's you who are claiming that these reproductive urges are against everyone's will.
Quote:No, no, imagining a woman during it.
Call me crazy but I can't pretend I'm having sex with a woman when I'm either sucking a dick or taking one up the ass.
Quote:Thinking about killing someone doesn't make you a murderer, but there definitely a difference between someone who just kills someone and someone who thinks about doing that all the time and plans it before killing someone.
Only in the court of law, but the amount of planning you put into your murder doesn't change the fact that you're just as much a murderer as someone who thought more about it.
Quote:But that doesn't have much to do with this... except for the fact that its probably true that some people are wired to be more violent than others.
Oh good lord, now you're going to tell me that violence is genetic too? I'd not try that tangent, as you still never proved that even homosexuality was pre-installed on the old genetic hard drive.
Quote:As for this issue... why would it make you gay if you have gay sex? Being gay has nothing to do with who you have sex with... its who you find attractive... and teh things you are talking about aren't even close to that.That's crap. I'm sorry, but it's very difficult to have sex with someone that you don't find attractive, thus why most people don't. And as I stated above, you can't be sodomized or give a blowjob willingly and NOT enjoy it on some level, otherwise you would not, and all gay sex involves at least one member doing one of those. So at the very least, half of people who are involved in gay sex enjoy it enough to do something like that, and that's assuming all gay sex is one-way, obviously it is not. It is all about who you have sex with, thus why the term 'sexuality' makes up more than two-thirds of the term homosexuality. The act of sex is one of the most physical activities there is.
Quote:No, the point is that your arguement makes no sense. None. If it were genetic/biological it'd happen exactly as it does. If it was environemental, however, it wouldn't be even close.
In the case of prison sex, it's mostly a choice, which cannot occur if genetics are involved.
Quote:Look, are you going to argue that they find masturbation and sex to be just as rewarding? Because clearly they don't or it wouldn't be happening. Are they gay? No. They are not. They are just criminals in prison who want more. And even men is better to them than nothing. That doesn't say anything about being gay... just about their situation. It doesn't mean that when they get out they are going to suddenly be gay... or do you actually think that that is true? How sad... because that's not the way it works.
They are gay, because they have gay intercourse. Case closed. As I stated above, you can't have gay sex and not enjoy it on some level, otherwise YOU WOULDN'T DO IT AT ALL. And it's totally possible for prisoners to enjoy that gay sex enough to continue having it once released.
Quote:It is extremely stupid and uninformed to equate those "small urges" with what it is like for a homosexual person.
No it is not, the urges are what fuels sexuality, homo and hetero. It's all about whether you give into those urges. If you give into the homosexual urges instead of the heterosexual urges, you are making a conscious decision. Whether or not you choose to adopt the homosexual lifestyle is a choice as well.
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