8th April 2003, 5:59 PM
Wow, you're so off base, I can barely even bring myself to dignify you with a response.
Let me first start by posting a quote, and I want you to tell me who said it.
<I>"It is in our interest and in the interests of people all around the world. Saddam Hussein has used weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles before. I have no doubt he would use them again if permitted to develop them."</I>
Who said that? Donald Rumsfeld? Bush? Powell? Chaney? Nope.
Bill Clinton said that in 1998. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1...cript.html
Show me a link to that poll.
What does popular opinion mean in the face of doing what is right? Nothing.
I can't believe you. <B>EVERY</B> single time the UN does anything, the United States makes up 70% or more of the military forces and monetary contribution. Of course as the strongest nation in the world, shoulders the biggest responsibility. Without the United States, the UN would collapse.
If the people should always be right (and you have made the argument that popular opinion should decide our countries actions) then why shouldn't we be doing this? Don't tell me that Americans have to get permission from a bunch of countries like Libya, France, Russia, or China to protect Unites States citizens and our homeland.
<B>HELLO?!? DO YOU WATCH TV? THE IRAQI's CHEER OUR TROOPS WHEN THEY ARRIVE!</B>
Ahh, another person you hate, so obviously anything he does HAS to be wrong (similar to your view of Bush). There is no way that he would have the largest talk show (20,000,000 listeners) in America if he wasn't right more than he was wrong.
<H1>WATCH THE DAMN NEWS!</H1>
American and British Troops have found a few different Terrorist camps in IRAQ, one of them had a fuselage of a 737 which was being used to teach people how to hijack airplanes.
How about that Bin Laden tape released today, in it Osama urged Arabs to suicide bomb American targets to avenge the Iraqi people. Osama hates Jews, Saddam hates Jews. How is that the opposite end of the spectrum?
PROVE to me that this war is CLEARLY something he really wanted to do before 9/11. Go ahead, show me news articles, or some other form of proof...not just your opinion. I want CONCRETE evidence.
Again, you show your ignorance on such matters. Colin Powell made that accusation in the UN security council, and then went on to show proof of communications between Al-Queda and Saddam's regime. That sounds like the government has said that there is a connection. DONT YOU EVER WATCH CNN OR MSNBC???
Incorrect, read my previous statement.
Your hatred blinds your reasoning.
If that were really true, why didn't we just attack Iraq in September of 2002, instead of spending months and months in the UN security council?
Let me first start by posting a quote, and I want you to tell me who said it.
<I>"It is in our interest and in the interests of people all around the world. Saddam Hussein has used weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles before. I have no doubt he would use them again if permitted to develop them."</I>
Who said that? Donald Rumsfeld? Bush? Powell? Chaney? Nope.
Bill Clinton said that in 1998. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1...cript.html
Quote:Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Not much of one. I saw a poll a while ago. It polled people in all the countries in the world. I've mentioned it before here... Guess how many countries had populations where more than 50% of the people supported this war? Three. The US, UK, and Israel. That's it. In every single other nation the majority of the people are against it. 190 to 3... hmm...
Show me a link to that poll.
What does popular opinion mean in the face of doing what is right? Nothing.
Quote:Note how only 2 or 3 nations other than the US and Britain (Austrailia and Poland are all I know of) are contributing forces in this invasion? In the Gulf War several dozen nations did that... and several nations wouldn't let our (ground) troops even go in their territory (Saudi Arabia, Turkey)! Great cooalition partners there!
I can't believe you. <B>EVERY</B> single time the UN does anything, the United States makes up 70% or more of the military forces and monetary contribution. Of course as the strongest nation in the world, shoulders the biggest responsibility. Without the United States, the UN would collapse.
Quote:Oh, and of COURSE the approval ratings are soaring... we're at war and the people support that...
If the people should always be right (and you have made the argument that popular opinion should decide our countries actions) then why shouldn't we be doing this? Don't tell me that Americans have to get permission from a bunch of countries like Libya, France, Russia, or China to protect Unites States citizens and our homeland.
Quote:Also note that the reaction is the complete opposite in the Arab world, as anti-American sentiment has gone from being popular to being almost universal hatred,
<B>HELLO?!? DO YOU WATCH TV? THE IRAQI's CHEER OUR TROOPS WHEN THEY ARRIVE!</B>
Quote:Rush Limbaugh is a complete and total moron who probably has never said anything true on that show in his life.
Ahh, another person you hate, so obviously anything he does HAS to be wrong (similar to your view of Bush). There is no way that he would have the largest talk show (20,000,000 listeners) in America if he wasn't right more than he was wrong.
Quote:First, this has nothing to do with 9/11 on a terrorism standpoint. Sadaam has nothing to do with Al Quaida or similar groups. Bin Laden and Sadaam didn't like eachother at all, which makes perfect sense when you think about how Sadaam is/was a secular ruler and Bin Laden is a extremely religous zealot... opposite ends of the spectrum...
<H1>WATCH THE DAMN NEWS!</H1>
American and British Troops have found a few different Terrorist camps in IRAQ, one of them had a fuselage of a 737 which was being used to teach people how to hijack airplanes.
How about that Bin Laden tape released today, in it Osama urged Arabs to suicide bomb American targets to avenge the Iraqi people. Osama hates Jews, Saddam hates Jews. How is that the opposite end of the spectrum?
Quote:No, 9/11 was just Bush's excuse for being able to do this act... which is clearly something he really wanted to do but before 9/11 just couldn't justify.
PROVE to me that this war is CLEARLY something he really wanted to do before 9/11. Go ahead, show me news articles, or some other form of proof...not just your opinion. I want CONCRETE evidence.
Quote:Note how that the US Governement has NEVER said, not ONCE, that Sadaam and 9/11 have ANY CONNECTION WHATSOEVER?
Again, you show your ignorance on such matters. Colin Powell made that accusation in the UN security council, and then went on to show proof of communications between Al-Queda and Saddam's regime. That sounds like the government has said that there is a connection. DONT YOU EVER WATCH CNN OR MSNBC???
Quote:(The only thing they've said is that Sadaam funded "terrorist groups". Well, yes. He helped fun the Palestinian terror movement for many years. But he has no connection to international radicals like Al Quaida... his whole philosophy is against their ideals...)
Incorrect, read my previous statement.
Quote:Know why? Because they don't! It just gave Bush (and his hawk buddies, councellors, and coaches) the excuse he needed to go after Sadaam for daddy... and get that oil for those guys who gave so much money to his campaign.
Your hatred blinds your reasoning.
Quote:The political boost he'd get from a war probably crossed his mind more than once too... [/B]
If that were really true, why didn't we just attack Iraq in September of 2002, instead of spending months and months in the UN security council?