8th April 2003, 1:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by A Black Falcon
...but I very much doubt that they would be taking this hard a stand if all they wanted to do was protect their investments, not once war became inevitable (to try to get on the US's good side so that after its over they could be in the best position as possible to continue business)... yet they have.
You don't think they've tried to get on the good side of the United States since all this started? Do you even READ the newspapers? You can't possibly believe what you just said, it's too moronic. France has since very much tried to gain favor with the United States.
Quote:as well of course as trying to capitalize on the public's hatred for this war in 99% of the world...
Over exageration. Granted, the French are morons because in a recent poll, 33% of them wanted Saddam, a murderous and tyrannical dictactor, to win the war against the U.S. However, to say that 99% of the world is against this war is stupid. The president's approval numbers are <B>SOARING</B> and Tony Blair isn't doing too badly either.
<B>DO YOU REALIZE WE HAVE MORE COUNTRIES SUPPORTING OUR COALITION THAN WE DID IN 1991?!?</B> Over 45 countries officially support the coalition to remove Saddam...how is it that 99% of the world is against us?!?
Quote:Oh, and the only people who would have found Colin Powell's UN presentation effective agreed with him before it started.
Not true. On Rush Limbaugh's program, in the following days there were many callers who said that Colin Powells presentation had changed their minds. I think the only people who's minds wouldn't have been changed were those who are only against the war because Bush is president. You liberals are still hating Bush for the Florida 2000 vote count. If Bill Clinton were in office, doing the exact same thing (not that he has the morals to do what is right) you'd be 100% behind the war. It's only because it's Bush that you hate it.
Quote:Bush is an idiot. He is also extremely unintelligent... I often wonder if he ever 'thinks'... He is doing what is best for some groups, sure... Rich people, Oil barons, the top 1%, and his father's (rich) friends.
Your statement just proved my earlier statement.
Quote:As for 1441, my previous statements that show how it is a fact that according to people who are experts on the subject, that resolution did not in any way authorize war. Thinking anything else is just deluding yourself.
On the contrary, my misguided liberal friend. The wording of 1441 was: <I>"...demands further that Iraq cooperate immediately, unconditionally, and actively ... that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations;"</I> NOBODY on the security council thought that 'serious consequences' meant another 8 months of having Hans Blix act like a moron. THEY MEANT WAR!!!! Guess what, in no way shape or form has Iraq even TRIED to cooperate immediately, unconditionally, and actively.
<B>You're the one deluding yourself.</B>
(Link to resolution 1441 - http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/02110803.htm )
Quote:No, this war isn't a legal one. For a war to be legal it must be (as I said before) self defence or sanctioned by the UN. This is neither of those things. Denying that is silly.
We, as Americans, do not need the permission of ANYBODY else to defend ourselves from terrorists, or sponsors of terrorism. We didn't provoke anyone to justify 9/11, but they attacked us anyway. When you mess with us, we're going to take you out. ITS OUR RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES FROM THOSE WHO WOULD TAKE OUR FREEDOM AWAY FROM US! We are a free people, not subject to the UN, except by our own choosing.