25th March 2003, 9:38 PM
Well, once the debate got to "proove God exists" which is exactly what happened between the space marine and some of our fellow TC members, I stepped out, but I will step in again just to say "stop". There isn't really a point. As I said, it's about faith. Faith by it's very definition lacks proof. I can't proove He exists to you, and in fact wasn't really trying to convince you that He MUST exist. I was however defending my position. You are in fact the attackers, trying to convince us of what you believe. I'll finish this saying the whole debate going on here should stop. I made my case quite some time ago, then it all got off course, and there seems to be a lot of anger and such around here. Let's just go on as before. Maybe you will choose this some day, maybe not, but it's out of my hands now, and I will not say anything to convince you of it, since as I said it's a matter of faith, which is purely one choosing whether or not to trust something with no evidence that it'll actually be trustworthy. Perhaps it would be best to simply close this thread for now. I don't want to overstep any boundries. Feel free to start up a new thread, and don't forget to say I'm censoring your freedom of expression :D (kidding, I wouldn't be so mean as to sum you up as that kind of hippy), but bear in mind I will most likely not take part in that discussion.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)