30th June 2004, 7:46 PM
asm, provide a link for this. I need to know about this claimed thing they did. Saying they "created a machine" is no where near specific enough. Did the device simply blow air in a wide blast that basically cut the water into two parts? Something like that done in the actual miracle would likely have blown anyone walking there into the water as well. Did it do something else? There's not enough info, and indeed I might end up chalking this up to you just hearing it, exactly as you told it to us from 3rd party with no reputable sources themselves to back it up.
Meanwhile, I have to say ASM, trying to back up miracles by saying "technically it could be done this way" is sorta contrary to the entire concept of what God is doing. God, the Christian God, would not HAVE to obey the laws of physics, which He Himself dictated to begin with. So saying it's physically possible in no way supports the Bible, as God could easily have just made it happen anyway. Indeed, God's miracles are always in violation of physical law, and there's no problem with that from my viewpoint because God is ABOVE said laws. Perhaps a better way to say it is that God rewrites the code of the universe for these little exceptions whenever he wishes, like creating a special object in some program that acts in a completely different way than similar objects.
Meanwhile, I have to say ASM, trying to back up miracles by saying "technically it could be done this way" is sorta contrary to the entire concept of what God is doing. God, the Christian God, would not HAVE to obey the laws of physics, which He Himself dictated to begin with. So saying it's physically possible in no way supports the Bible, as God could easily have just made it happen anyway. Indeed, God's miracles are always in violation of physical law, and there's no problem with that from my viewpoint because God is ABOVE said laws. Perhaps a better way to say it is that God rewrites the code of the universe for these little exceptions whenever he wishes, like creating a special object in some program that acts in a completely different way than similar objects.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)