1st September 2004, 12:19 PM
I was actually surprised to find the whole concept of town meetings was still done in smaller towns. I had previously thought it was something that was only done in "the past". And yes, Tulsa is completely devoid of any sort of town meeting.
As ABF pointed out, and as I'm trying to also point out, this really isn't a matter of the government stepping over our rights to tell us what to do and control us. This is a very simple totally non-intrusive law that basically just makes sure we behave ourselves on the road. Once again, I must ask exactly HOW this "horrid" law is a breech of civil liberties?
I have a feeling I know what your response will be, so I'll just make a preemptive strike.
No, this is not some "stepping stone" to much harsher control and laws that really will infringe on our rights. That is a non-sequiter type logical flaw. Non-sequiter literally meaning "does not follow". There is no proof that this law will lead to greater constraints, thus it DOES NOT FOLLOW that this law will lead to much stricter laws limiting our freedom. Provide evidence that this is somehow a gateway, then I will listen to such an argument.
Oh yes, the non-sequiter is a logical flaw used ALL THE TIME in politics, as many of you may have noticed :D.
As ABF pointed out, and as I'm trying to also point out, this really isn't a matter of the government stepping over our rights to tell us what to do and control us. This is a very simple totally non-intrusive law that basically just makes sure we behave ourselves on the road. Once again, I must ask exactly HOW this "horrid" law is a breech of civil liberties?
I have a feeling I know what your response will be, so I'll just make a preemptive strike.
No, this is not some "stepping stone" to much harsher control and laws that really will infringe on our rights. That is a non-sequiter type logical flaw. Non-sequiter literally meaning "does not follow". There is no proof that this law will lead to greater constraints, thus it DOES NOT FOLLOW that this law will lead to much stricter laws limiting our freedom. Provide evidence that this is somehow a gateway, then I will listen to such an argument.
Oh yes, the non-sequiter is a logical flaw used ALL THE TIME in politics, as many of you may have noticed :D.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)