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eXisTenZe · 2nd March 2003, 10:24 AM

Yeah Konami, it would be nice to have a Yugioh game that's playable online too! It would be such a lame if you're playing a 2-player versus game with someone everytime its his/her turn you'd have to look the other way around just so you can't see your opponent's deck.... Yes, they should make an online Duel Monsters game, something EVERYONE can play. And if they are to make a game like this, it should be a multi-platform, and as well as creating universal multi-master servers where GC, PS2 and Xbx owners can all duke it out in one intense network server, this is better than segregating them all.

If anyone, please tell me that this is possible? I mean if they can do it on Phantasy Star Online or Capcom VS. SNK EO, why can't they develop a game that's based on card games?

***A Black Falcon*** · 2nd March 2003, 3:19 PM

They could... note that there's a online PC Magic card game...

eXisTenZe · 3rd March 2003, 8:44 PM

There's no Yugioh game for the PC....

***Dark Jaguar*** · 10-12-1999

That's not what he said. He said the Magic: The Gathering card game is a PC online card game.

It's certainly possible. It's about as bandwidth intensive as a chess game is. (Note: Not a lot at all.)

By the way, I totally agree that more online games should work between different system versions. So long as both versions send out and recieve the SAME data, there is no compatibility issue. Many PC/Mac games work online between versions, well of the games that are on both of them, like all of Blizzard's games.

There is a problem though. GCN is a system where online support isn't even done by Nintendo, and so Nintendo's online ability is currently in the catch 22 of no one buying online adapters so companies don't make games to support it and companies not making games to support it so no one buys the adapters. That leaves that out, which is something that would have allowed PS2 and GCN games to link up easily enough. The remaining problem is between PS2 and XBox. Why aren't those online compatible between two versions of the same game? PS2 online games can't log into XBox Live's servers, because after all it's owned by MS. MS also forces 3rd parties to use XBox live alone for their online games. This prevents XBox Live games from hooking up with alternate system versions on ANY system.

There is one remaining thing. PC/PS2 interconnecting. To be honest I can't think of any games that are out on both systems in online form for both. However, if there were, it would certainly be nothing but a good idea for that 3rd party company to make them both use the same online communication protocal so they could indeed link up with each other.

***A Black Falcon*** · 3rd March 2003, 9:30 PM

Umm... I assumed you knew what Magic cards were... they've only been really popular for at least a decade, probably more...

Its a online card game... and it does require payment but not monthly. You pay to buy card packs (or cards). You get some starter deck and then have to pay (real) money to buy card packs, just like you would for the real game... an interesting business model that might work on consoles too, but I imagine it'd be tougher there...

Most console and PC online games are on seperate networks, even when the games have the same name or are similar... there was a Dreamcast game or two that was online on DC and PC on the same network, but I know some X-Box shooters are on seperate networks from PC ones...

***Dark Jaguar*** · 3rd March 2003, 9:37 PM

I don't think I'm going to pay real money for digital cards. Real money to access the game is one thing, that's something I might find myself doing for ONE massivly multiplayer RPG at a time. Real money to buy fake items in the game? What is this, eBay's Everquest center? Interesting isn't the word I'd use for the business model...

***A Black Falcon*** · 3rd March 2003, 9:42 PM

Its intresting because most online games either are free or charge monthly fees. In this one the games themselves are free, but to be able to compete well you must pay to buy cards... unique.

eXisTenZe · 4th March 2003, 8:21 PM

No, I have never heard of that game before, please excuse me. I am more fond of Yugioh though.

***Dark Jaguar*** · 4th March 2003, 8:30 PM

I have yet to collect any machine types in Magic: The Gathering. You would think there would be at least ONE place in that world with robots, even if they had to do the stereotypical escavating of ancient ruins to find them.

***Smoke*** · 31st March 2003, 1:51 AM

Quote:Originally posted by eXisTenZe
No, I have never heard of that game before, please excuse me. I am more fond of Yugioh though.

That's fine but you should know that Magic: The Gathering is the game that spawned the whole "Collectable Card Game" genre. That means, no Magic: The Gathering, no Yugioh.

***Dark Jaguar*** · 31st March 2003, 2:01 AM

Hmm.... I do wonder if they really were the first, in Japan anyway. They started it here to be sure, but in Japan what was the first collector card game?

I'll say this, trading cards sucked until someone decided to make a game out of it.

***A Black Falcon*** · 31st March 2003, 11:38 AM

Magic has been around for something like 15 years... I remember people playing it early in elementary school... did any Japanese card games exist then? I don't know of any... Magic created the genre and is still a very popular game in it. How in the world have you never heard of it (if you ever come back to this site and respond, that is...)?

9th December 2005, 2:45 AM

MTG has always reminded me of a game version of tarot cards...kinda makes me wonder.:crap:

***lazyfatbum*** · 9th December 2005, 3:59 AM

WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU

Card games are boring - all of them. Except for making a house of cards or throwing cards in to a hat, those are insanely addictive.

I do have to say though, I played Yugioh with my nephew and I had fun as he beat the piss out of me. Stupid rules dont make any sense, I was doing fine and then he pulls out a thing called a Blue Eyes White Dragon and all my HP goes to zero and I couldn't even get a monster out of the graveyard because he used a magic card that nulls MY magic card. I felt violated. So we played PD and I killed several million simulants with a KNIFE

***A Black Falcon*** · 9th December 2005, 10:17 AM

1) Pointless ancient thread resurrection...

2) Collectable card games are still too expensive to be worth playing...

Atamisc · 13th December 2005, 7:47 AM

eXisTenZe Wrote:Yeah Konami, it would be nice to have a Yugioh game that's playable online too! It would be such a lame if you're playing a 2-player versus game with someone everytime its his/her turn you'd have to look the other way around just so you can't see your opponent's deck.... Yes, they should make an online Duel Monsters game, something EVERYONE can play. And if they are to make a game like this, it should be a multi-platform, and as well as creating universal multi-master servers where GC, PS2 and Xbx owners can all duke it out in one intense network server, this is better than segregating them all.

If anyone, please tell me that this is possible? I mean if they can do it on Phantasy Star Online or Capcom VS. SNK EO, why can't they develop a game that's based on card games?

Atamisc · 13th December 2005, 7:48 AM

hi, my name is Atamis. what's your's

***lazyfatbum*** · 13th December 2005, 9:25 AM

No matter how hard you try, I will not sleep with you.

***Smoke*** · 14th December 2005, 12:56 AM

Hi Atamisc I'm Smoke.

lazyfatbum Wrote:WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU

The word Yugioh seems to pull in the traffic. We should make one of the lesser used forums The Yugioh Forum of Wonder. We can still talk about whatever we already talk about but it'll pull in more traffic. :p

***Dark Jaguar*** · 14th December 2005, 1:10 AM

I've actually played that "yugi" game now. The rules do make sense, but there are a smabillion of them and it's not exactly easy to remember them all.

So hey, if you have time to kill but not quite enough to learn the even more convoluted rules of D&D, play a collectible card game.

Also, you'll need money. A lot... of money...

This whole "open ended" thing probably isn't the best idea, but the worst is that random element in what cards you get. They really should just sell whatever their latest edition of cards is as a COMPLETE box set, with all the cards they just made in it. No muss, no fuss.

However, I understand part of the challenge is from how rare some cards are. Bolderdash! How is the fact that it's hard to get a card any real challenge? Oh sure, the guy who can't find the uber super expensive cards may find the rich kid a challenge, but seriously, one's wallet should not be the determining factor of victory. We play games to ESCAPE reality, and that includes however poor we may truly be.

***Smoke*** · 14th December 2005, 1:13 AM

I was in a comic shop once and a guy was selling a whole bunch of Magic: The Gathering cards. I asked him why and he said he needed to sell them for food.

***Dark Jaguar*** · 14th December 2005, 1:31 AM

The sad thing is that by the transitive property that means he BOUGHT them INSTEAD of food.

***A Black Falcon*** · 14th December 2005, 9:25 AM

The Yugioh cartoon is good, for the most part... never played the cardgame or any of the video/computer games, though.

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