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    Darunia
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    #1
    12th January 2005, 9:56 PM
    Over the course of my daily mind-wanderings, I've come up with a question so deviously puzzling, that SURELY none of you will solve it. Yes, it's even more tantalizingly twisted than my computer dilemme of last week. Why is the pronoun "I" as, in the first-person pronoun...Ich, Je, Yo... why is it capitalized in English? No other pronouns are in english, is it just some rule made up specially for "I" because it's only one character? I need to know!
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    12th January 2005, 10:01 PM
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    12th January 2005, 10:10 PM
    Unfortunatly, I never really did any research on etymology of the language.

    So, all I can say is that there is no logical reason for a lot of grammar, it's just what we got stuck with from common usage. The only reason that can actually be given would be historical, not really logical. For example, there is no good reason for knight to be spelled like that, logically. However, since it's been passed down and is the standard spelling, that is the correct way to spell it. That's the thing about grammar and spelling, what's correct depends entirely on what is accepted by the majority as correct.

    So, as to the history of the word "I", I can't say, but I can only say it's no less logical to spell it like that than the majority of the words we say.
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    #4
    12th January 2005, 10:38 PM
    I say you declare war on the letter I, take it prisoner, and then violently interrogate it until it tells you.
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    #5
    12th January 2005, 10:39 PM
    It's because you're refering to yourself, just as you would capatilize your name.
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    #6
    12th January 2005, 11:24 PM
    In German, you know, they capitalize all nouns... English dropped that at some point, but we still capitalize names and proper nouns... and word I. Why? Who knows. Random chance sometime.
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    #7
    13th January 2005, 12:36 AM
    Quote:It's because you're refering to yourself, just as you would capatilize your name.

    People don't capitalize "me", though.
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    #8
    13th January 2005, 11:00 AM
    You're supposed to.

    My, Me, Myself, His, Hers, I, I'm, etc
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    #9
    13th January 2005, 4:32 PM
    Is that true, Lazy? So should You be capitalized...?
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    13th January 2005, 5:14 PM
    Explode
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    #11
    14th January 2005, 4:08 AM
    no. It shows no ownership, it is a vague reference, it gives no point of person (first person, third person, etc) and is a term used to call attention to anyone other than yourself or as a hypothetical. You know?

    your is the same way, as is yourself, since it's third person.
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    #12
    14th January 2005, 9:29 AM
    No you're not supposed to capitalize me, because it's not accepted by the public as the correct way to do that. That's the thing about language, what is right and wrong is decided entirely by the the majority at large, and considering it's how we communicate, it SHOULD be that way.
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    #13
    14th January 2005, 12:07 PM
    whatever you say girly man!
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    #14
    14th January 2005, 12:11 PM
    Take away the "man" part and you're correct.
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    #15
    14th January 2005, 12:42 PM
    She has said almost nothing about it , neither denies it or confirms it.

    I thought you guys were just joking at first untill it really started to make clear sense.

    After like 6 years of having DJ presence, She could come out of the closet and I dont think anyone besides maybe a few teasing rants at first would treat her any differently then before.It only though makes me wonder if her fondness of Yatta was sexual and not comical like I originally thought.

    Infact I dont see the point of why she posed as a boy for so long , Some sites are less tolerant but this is TC they could suck donkey balls hump Eskomoes and we would still accept them.
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    #16
    14th January 2005, 1:48 PM
    I bet if you looked back at it ASM DJ just always dodged the issue as opposed to saying she was a boy... seems more like what DJ would do. :)
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    #17
    14th January 2005, 2:01 PM
    You probaily could best know that then me, But She never played it as gender neutral to some degree she did make the attempt to hide her feminism,So the question would never come up and she would not have to be in a position to show and tell.
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    #18
    14th January 2005, 4:00 PM
    She never claimed to be a boy or a girl. But she is a girl.
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    #19
    14th January 2005, 5:36 PM
    ASM, DJ didn't do that. She just let people make assumptions... and likes being mysterious...
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