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    A Black Falcon
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    #1
    6th December 2003, 11:14 AM
    http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13047

    Quote:Microsoft to gouge for flash memory FAT licences

    $quarter per device, or $250,000 per company

    By INQUIRER staff: Thursday 04 December 2003, 21:48
    IT SEEMS that Microsoft has decided to pull in some old patents and start charging manufacturers of flash devices who may use the FAT file system in their gizmos.

    Microsoft claims rights to the FAT file system back to 1976, and it has made a few changes since then, as we recall only too well.

    The new scheme is based on a few patents including this lot, U.S. Patent #5,579,517, U.S. Patent #5,745,902, U.S. Patent #5,758,352, and U.S. Patent #6,286,013.

    Microsoft also claims that it's filed a claim for a patent that the US Patent Office hasn't yet granted, which will extend to products outside the US.

    It is apparently offering companies a licence where they pay either a $quarter per unit or a $quarter of a million per manufacturer.

    Pricing for devices that aren't the kind of flash you find in TVs, video cameras, printers, musical instruments, audio players, digital cameras and others can apparently be negotiated with the Vole.

    That'd be Smartphones, then.

    The licence will be conditional on the FAT system being used on a device being compliant with Microsoft standards.

    Companies might like to negotiate narrower or broader licences with the Vole.

    And yes, you may not need a licence for a device which isn't formatted, but if it ends up using FAT you probably do need one, it appears.

    Almost unbelievable. But it's true.

    Point is, if Microsoft is going to push and shove manufacturers in Taiwan or China to license its FAT system, it may just end up pushing these manufacturers straight into the arms of other OSes, such as Linux. Or even IBM PC DOS, which is still its own entity. µ


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    6th December 2003, 12:47 PM
    Wow... I can imagine MS trying to get Sony to pay them money for every PS2 memory card sold...

    Huh, never thought MS would do this. What a bunch of jerks...
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    6th December 2003, 12:59 PM
    I wish Microsoft would go bankrupt...and then Nintendo could buy them out.
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    6th December 2003, 1:23 PM
    I just bought an Xbox, Not a bad system .
    But you would think that Microsoft is rich enough.
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    6th December 2003, 1:57 PM (This post was last modified: 6th December 2003, 2:15 PM by A Black Falcon.)
    As you can tell that site is ... critical ... of MS. :)

    Oh, DJ, I mentioned this in that post of mine yesterday you refused to read because I used the evil word 'but'... but no one noticed. It was a response to your statement that Nintendo should use something other than a propriatary filesystem on their memcards, such as free FAT... :D
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    6th December 2003, 3:08 PM
    And you bring this up... why?
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    6th December 2003, 3:10 PM
    It's human nature, everyone wants to be first.

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    If you repeat that to someone you better tell them I said it, because I said it first!
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    6th December 2003, 8:51 PM
    Because it shows that you're foolish for not reading a post because I used the word 'but'?
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    6th December 2003, 10:58 PM
    ... You manage to completely miss the point...
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    6th December 2003, 11:09 PM
    Because I often don't really know what your point is, and you don't explain yourself very well... like here, uh, what was this point of yours?
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    7th December 2003, 2:55 PM
    Microsoft owns! Your asses!
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