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[lazyfatbum]

And Merry Christmas!

[A Black Falcon]

I hate how so many people start Christmas season the week before Thanksgiving... darnit, it should start like a week before Christmas and last for a few weeks after!

[Dark Jaguar]

I'm all for the "last a few weeks after" bit, but not the starting later bit! After all, it's best to have the stores full of Christmas cheer to help one during that whole month of constant shopping.

[The Former DMiller]

Lazy stops by to wish us Merry Christmas and you complain about Christmas starting early? Jerk.

[A Black Falcon]

But it's annoying how marketing keeps pushing christmas earlier and earlier and has now swallowed Thanksgiving... what's next, Halloween? :barf:

[Dark Jaguar]

Um, all my life the Christmas season has started RIGHT after Thanksgiving. You seem to be a slave to TV telling you that everyone else is a slave to marketting.

Also, so what if they are "pushing" it? Yeesh ya grinch, are you the kind of person who sits around complaining about Christmas the whole time about how it was "invented by the industry" and "wasn't even originally a Christian holiday" and such? Who cares about the marketing? Just enjoy it!

[Sacred Jellybean]

I like Halloween. :love:

[A Black Falcon]

Well given that Christmas exists because the early Christians needed a holiday on Saturnalia to help convince Romans to convert, no, it isn't a holiday of actual Christian origin. :D

And anyway, no one has a clue when Jesus was actually born...

[Dark Jaguar]

Gee, thanks for the info EVERYONE IS FULLY AWARE OF. Yeesh, it's kinda obvious it wasn't even near winter in the Bible when Jesus was born.

Also, it's more like Christians needed a way to worship without being made into flaming street lights at the time.

[alien space marine]

easter is also not christian as it was a norse festival for the norse goddess easter, The Normans of normandy when coverted to catholiscism refused to give up Easter as it was their favorite pagan festival so someone got the wierd idea of making it a christian festival which would be in remeberance of Jesus death , It actually is not very far off from the biblical cronoligy of his cruisifiction.

but my question to you is if your atheist why do you practice a celebration which is clearly religous

[A Black Falcon]

Gee, thanks for the info EVERYONE IS FULLY AWARE OF. Yeesh, it's kinda obvious it wasn't even near winter in the Bible when Jesus was born.

Hey, you asked... :D

Also, it's more like Christians needed a way to worship without being made into flaming street lights at the time.

Maybe partially, but also it definitely makes a religion more attractive to convert to when you don't lose your best holidays... :)

but my question to you is if your atheist why do you practice a celebration which is clearly religous

Me? Uh, presents are nice... and Jesus said some good things...

[Great Rumbler]

Athiests are hijacking our holiday! *climbs to the top of a Christmas tree* We will take out holiday BACK! *tree falls over* NOOOOOO!!

Anyways, Happy-Merry Christmas, everyone...except ABF. :p

[A Black Falcon]

Er... GR, Christmas trees are a Germanic Pagan thing, not Christian... :D

[Weltall]

*Sitting deep within his lair, located in the frozen wastes of the northlands, A Black Falcon reads this thread, and decides to make it his life's goal to piss in the mouth of God*

[alien space marine]

Who ever thought of putting a live tree in your house and then stick shit to it.What was the purpose of having a tree?

Really have you thought why people still continue the tradition of having a decorated tree in there house only to burn it for fire wood afterward.

[Great Rumbler]

Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Er... GR, Christmas trees are a Germanic Pagan thing, not Christian... :D

Oh yeah?! Well, your face is stupid!

[Weltall]

Originally posted by alien space marine
Who ever thought of putting a live tree in your house and then stick shit to it.What was the purpose of having a tree?

Really have you thought why people still continue the tradition of having a decorated tree in there house only to burn it for fire wood afterward.

Because it's tradition. Traditions continue because that's how traditions are.

[Laser Link]

Hi lazy.

[A Black Falcon]

Christmas trees... not sure, but midwinter festivals is a very good guess. After all, it's early Germany... cold, dark, in December you don't have much sun... you don't know if the sun will return. So in the shortest days you have some kind of festival of light... to pray for the sun to return, I guess. Seems logical that the christmas tree, bedecked in candles, comes from that...

[Dark Jaguar]

Look ABF, we are all FULLY aware that there's very little about Christmas that was actually originated by Christans when the holiday was first adapted by them. We don't CARE though! Ya see? It's meaning has been CHANGED. The old meaning is gone now. It's irrelevent.

[A Black Falcon]

Yup, and now it's changed into a mostly secular holiday about giving gifts. :)

[Dark Jaguar]

Wow, I'm shocked you are actually aware of that. Most non-Christians are convinced that Christians run the country and are trying to shove it down everyone's throats around Christmas time. Exceptional.

However, the meaning remains the same for me. Of course, you can continue to keep the old meaning yourself, but why go to EFFORT to stay unhappy?

[A Black Falcon]

Huh? Uh, doesn't everyone know how commercialized Christmas has become?

And also, I never said I hate Christmas... I don't... I just don't like how early it starts...

[Great Rumbler]

I just don't like how early it starts...

Scrooge. *sings Christmas carols in front of ABF's house in the middle of summer*

[OB1]

I love that new GBA commercial with the kids singing carols while playing Mario 3.

[The Former DMiller]

DOG?

[alien space marine]

too offensive!

[A Black Falcon]

I just saw a 1080 commercial... first time I'd seen it. It was okay.

[Laser Link]

I'm with ABF on this one. I love Christmas, but I don't like how it has moved into November. And the reason I don't like that is because they are extending Christmas SOLELY for commercial reasons and I would like to celebrate Thanksgiving without hearing Christmas songs everywhere I go. At least wait until after Thanksgiving, please? Thank you for doing that, Weltall.

[Dark Jaguar]

Eh, no matter to me. Commercials are outside my life, so I don't really care what they are focusing on at any one time. I tend not to watch much TV (I waste my life in OTHER ways thank you).

[Weltall]

Originally posted by Laser Link
I'm with ABF on this one. I love Christmas, but I don't like how it has moved into November. And the reason I don't like that is because they are extending Christmas SOLELY for commercial reasons and I would like to celebrate Thanksgiving without hearing Christmas songs everywhere I go. At least wait until after Thanksgiving, please? Thank you for doing that, Weltall.

Well, it was the idea to unveil it the day after Thanksgiving, as I did the last two years. I got distracted this year :)

I personally don't particularly mind the commercial aspect of Christmas, I understand it and tolerate it, though there are definitely some times when I want to groan... "It's the HOLIDAY SEASON, AND IT'S THE PERFECT TIME FOR A NEW MUFFLER!"

[Dark Jaguar]

Haha, yeah those are idiotic. I barely notice them though. Besides, I actually LIKE seeing stores practically dripping with little Christmas trees and various cardboard greenery hanging from the ceiling. Cheesy goodness from your neighbors at *insert store here*!

[A Black Falcon]

I don't mind Christmas stuff in stores either... if it's at most two weeks before Christmas, that is. Before that and it's just annoying.

And I would agree that Christmas is over-commercialized... though given the nature of the holiday (giving gifts) it was inevitable.

[A Black Falcon]

We've had a tree for like four or five days, but put the ornaments on it last night. :)

[Dark Jaguar]

Little Debbie... FOOLS! I can't find the Christmas snack cakes I love so much anymore! It's all VALENTINE'S DAY! That's like... a long time away!

[Great Rumbler]

I've had my Christmas tree for a couple of week now.