'80s Cartoons

[A Black Falcon]

So which do you prefer?

And would any other cartoons really qualify for this list? :)

[Dark Jaguar]

Yes, you forgot Thundercats and Voltron at least!

[A Black Falcon]

Why? Aren't they nothing but shows somewhat similar and vastly inferior to Transformers? :)

[Dark Jaguar]

You've never actually.... seen... Thundercats have you? JUST ADD IT! HO! As for Voltron, it's kinda similar, but more to the Japanese original Transformers where the kids could ride inside the robots. It's actually more like Power Rangers.

[A Black Falcon]

No, I haven't seen Thundercats.

Hmm... Smurfs, maybe? :D

The Super Mario Bros. Super Show? Captain N? Or were those '90s?

And as for comparing something to Power Rangers... Power Rangers stinks. Really badly.

[Weltall]

Where the hell is He-Man?

I know the current version of He-Man is awful, but the original kicks rocks!

[Great Rumbler]

And as for comparing something to Power Rangers... Power Rangers stinks. Really badly.

The Power Rangers used to be cool back when the show started, but after I realised they just did the same thing over and over I got tired of watching it.

No, I haven't seen Thundercats.

Gasp! By the eye of Thundara!!

I thought of a show that needs to be added: Robotech! While I didn't get to watch it until the '90s, it's a really good '80s cartoon.

[A Black Falcon]

Where the hell is He-Man?

Huh? Its there...

The Power Rangers used to be cool back when the show started, but after I realised they just did the same thing over and over I got tired of watching it.

It was lame... Ninja Turtles is a thousand times better.

Gasp! By the eye of Thundara!!

I thought of a show that needs to be added: Robotech! While I didn't get to watch it until the '90s, it's a really good '80s cartoon.

Hmm... Robotech, yes, good one.

[OB1]

Are we just counting shows that aired only in the U.S. in the 80's, or cartoons from any country in the 80's? If that's the case then Z Gundam wins, hand down. It still holds up today, unlike most of those other shows. Have you seen the old TMNT lately? It's really, really bad.

[Great Rumbler]

I assumed that it was shows that aired here in the '80's, but ABF didn't specify wether or not that was the case.

Z Gundam wins, hand down.

Have you ever seen Robotech? Anyway, Robotech is awesome! Way better than your silly Gundams, because the robots in Robotech can turn into jet fighters or a combination of both. Instant awesome, in my opinion.

[OB1]

Z Gundam also had the whole robot-that-turns-into-a-jet-type-thingy. What it had that Robotech lacked, however, was a great story and super-keen mech designs.

[A Black Falcon]

I was thinking US cartoons... but whatever...

And I know that the old TMNT is corny and not great... but its still allright. Corny, mostly in a good way... :)

But I'd definitely say that Transformers held up better.

[OB1]

I used to love TMNT, but after seeing a few episodes recently I'm shocked that I once loved it so much. It's a really crappy show.

And I think it would be better to just include shows that aired in the U.S.

[Weltall]

I swear He-Man wasn't up there the first time! Stop screwing with my head!

[A Black Falcon]

Masters of the Universe was there, along with Transformers and TMNT... if you really liked it you'd have remembered the name of the show... :)

[alien space marine]

Transformers was my first child hood obsesion.

I used to buy loads of transformer toys.

[Great Rumbler]

Z Gundam also had the whole robot-that-turns-into-a-jet-type-thingy.

Since they both came out in '85 which copied which?

[OB1]

Well since Robotech was sort of an off-shoot of the original 70's Gundam show, the answer is Robotech of course.

Anyone that knows their mech anime knows that Gundam is king. You have much to learn, my very young apprentice.

[A Black Falcon]

As in, "everyone who agrees with me thinks its the best"?

And I had a bunch of Transformers toys tool. They were cool... I loved those things. :)

[Great Rumbler]

Well since Robotech was sort of an off-shoot of the original 70's Gundam show, the answer is Robotech of course.

I meant about the mech-that-turns-into-a-jet things.

Anyone that knows their mech anime knows that Gundam is king.

Pfft. Gigantor could totally smash like a hundred Gundams...at once.

[OB1]

As in, "everyone who agrees with me thinks its the best"?

NO, as in "everyone who's seen all of the good mech shows knows that Gundam is the best". GR has only seen Big O, Robotech and crappy Gundam Wing.

I meant about the mech-that-turns-into-a-jet things.

Well they both came out at the same time so.... Z Gundam. :p

Pfft. Gigantor could totally smash like a hundred Gundams...at once.

Well if they were too powerful then the show would be no fun.

[Great Rumbler]

GR has only seen Big O, Robotech and crappy Gundam Wing.

Actually I've seen quite a few more than that. The actual list is: Big O, Robotech, Gundam Wing, Gundam 08th MS Team, Dai-Guard, Nadesico, Rahxephon, and all three Patlabor movies.

Well they both came out at the same time so.... Z Gundam.

I did some searching and I found that Robotech actually came out in Japan in '82. So...Z Gundam copied Robotech. :)

Robotech

Well if they were too powerful then the show would be no fun.

Well...Gigantor wasn't really that powerful, but he did fight evil quite often.

[A Black Falcon]

I've seen a few eps of various Gundams, a few of Nadiesico, the first Macross Plus episode (have the other three, haven't seen them)... and all of Escaflowne (though that's somewhat different) and most of Evangelion.

[OB1]

Actually I've seen quite a few more than that. The actual list is: Big O, Robotech, Gundam Wing, Gundam 08th MS Team, Dai-Guard, Nadesico, Rahxephon, and all three Patlabor movies.

I've seen all of:

-Mobile Suit Gundam
-Zeta Gundam
-Gundam Wing
-Gundam 08th MS Team
-Gundam 0080
-Gundam 0083
-Gundam: Char's Counterattack
-Policenauts 1 & 2

Most of:

-Nadesico
-Victory Gundam
-Gundam F91
-Robotech
-Big O
-Argento Soma
-Evangelion
-Macross Plus
-Escaflowne

Some of:

-Gigantor
-Gundam Seed
-Rahxephon,
-Patlabor
-Gasaraki
-Hades Project Zeorymer
-Turn A Gundam


And uh... some others that I forgot.

I did some searching and I found that Robotech actually came out in Japan in '82. So...Z Gundam copied Robotech.

Oh, I forgot about the Gundam novels by Gundam creator Yoshiyuki Tomino. He wrote a bunch of them in between and during the series, and I believe one of pre-Robotech ones had robots-into-jets mechs.

And besides, Robotech was just a robot soap opera while the good Gundam series were serious robot war epics. And they had much better mech designs.
:shakeit:

[alien space marine]

Ive only seen Gundam wing.

[OB1]

That show sucks. :)

[Great Rumbler]

That show sucks.

Don't try to force your opinion on us like it's fact, OB1!

-Gundam 0083

I've seen that too, I just forgot to include it on my list.

[qoute]
And besides, Robotech was just a robot soap opera while the good Gundam series were serious robot war epics.[/quote]

I still stand by my opinion that Robotech is an awesome series.

[A Black Falcon]

(shows with mechs)

All
-Escaflowne

Most
-Evangelion (seen first 18 eps)

Some
-Nadiesco (first three eps)
-Gundam 0080 (3-5 assorted eps)
-Macross Plus (ep.1)
And one or two eps of some other Gundam show that I forget the name of.

Isn't Macross Robotech? Did Macross Plus not come out over here or something?

[OB1]

Don't try to force your opinion on us like it's fact, OB1!

But it's true!! Gundam Wing is a pathetic shell of the original Gundam series. It's like the stupid younger sister of the Gundam family. At least Gundam G went crazy with the action thing and didn't try to be like MSG. Wing tried to be like MSG but failed miserably.

I still stand by my opinion that Robotech is an awesome series.

And I agree with you! It's a cool show. Just not Gundam cool.

Isn't Macross Robotech? Did Macross Plus not come out over here or something?

Macross is one of the Robotech series, yes. But then there were Macross movies and OVAs that got rid of the Robotech name, like Macross Plus.

[Great Rumbler]

But it's true!!

I liked it.

Just not Gundam cool.

Well, Dai-Guard is better than both. :p

Macross is one of the Robotech series, yes.

Yes. Robotech was actually a combination of three anime series, which had nothing to do with each other, btw.

[OB1]

I liked it.

That's because you haven't seen any of the full-lengthed UC Gundam series. Once you watch them Gundam Wing looks terrible in comparison.

Well, Dai-Guard is better than both.

Dai-Guard is just a big Gundam rip-off... the mech design, anyhow.

[Great Rumbler]

Dai-Guard is just a big Gundam rip-off... the mech design, anyhow.

Uh...not really.

[OB1]

Yeah, because there's only one Gundam design in existence.

Allow me to help you.

Gundam Wing's Epyon:





Dr. Ripoffo, aka Dai-Guard:

[Great Rumbler]

I wish I had a costume like that.

Anyway, Dai-Guard is still cool. :p

[OB1]

Sure, but his design is a complete rip-off of Epyon. :)

That's me in that costume!

[N-Man]

Those cartoons are really early childhood for me, like 4-5 years old... mostly I watched Carebears, TMNT and GI Joe back then, as far as English cartoons go anyway. Also ate up Disney stuff, like Ducktales, Rescue Rangers and Tailspin. Later on (around 8-9) I was mostly into Captain Planet and Power Rangers. Transformers never did anything for me, and I never even heard of He-Man until I read about it on the internet.

[OB1]

*Gasp!*

How could we forget about Carebears??!!

[A Black Falcon]

Captain Planet... now THAT was a really bad show. I always thought that it was one of the lamest shows ever... and I always disliked TaleSpin. Ducktales and Rescue Rangers were cool, though...

[Dark Jaguar]

Anyone remember Rainbow Brite? Just me? Okay then.

Anyway, Thundercats was COOL, because it was like, all cat like, and it was all like "we have magic in space". I thought that the sight beyond sight was cool, and I wanted that! Plus, it had Mum-ra! He was so evil they cancelled the show because of him! Well, he did kinda pray to ancient spirits of evil to boost his own power on a regular basis. Not a single giant robot to be found there ABF by the way. Plus, those Lunatics were cool. They broke Lion-O's sword. And Cheetara was cool, because she's all like, fast. And um, that's about it.

I wish the Japanese Transformers had been aired here instead of the other thing. I liked Transformers, even though I only saw like 10 episodes at most. I remember the one with dinobots. That was cool, because dinosaurs are cool. ALL of them! Rex egg protection attack pattern something-or-other! Then, a big rock came along...

What's Weltall doing up there?

[OB1]

What?

[A Black Falcon]

What was Japanese Transformers like? Never seen it...

[Dark Jaguar]

Well, that was actually what the US Transformers was based on. Kinda odd that the leader of the autobots, a giant semi-truck, is from good ol' Japan. All I know is what others have told me, but apparently the kids in the Japanese version occasionally actually piloted the Transformers. I have no idea why they decided to actually make a brand new series for us in the US instead of just translating the Japanese one though.

To OB1: Who?

[OB1]

What's Weltall doing up there?

??

[Great Rumbler]

Originally posted by Dark Jaguar
Well, that was actually what the US Transformers was based on. Kinda odd that the leader of the autobots, a giant semi-truck, is from good ol' Japan. All I know is what others have told me, but apparently the kids in the Japanese version occasionally actually piloted the Transformers. I have no idea why they decided to actually make a brand new series for us in the US instead of just translating the Japanese one though.

As far as I can determine our Transformers IS the original series, not a new series based on a previous one. There is, however, a newer series, that, if I remember correctly, is similar to what you are describing.

[OB1]

Yeah, "Robots in Disguise". That show sucked pretty badly.

[A Black Falcon]

There've been a whole bunch of Transformers serieses since the original, but none of them are as good as it...

[Great Rumbler]

I think DJ might have been talking about Transformers: Car Robots.

[OB1]

The Transformers movie was great.

[Great Rumbler]

Yes it was.

[A Black Falcon]

Yeah, the Transformers movie was awesome...