America vs. Canada XXVII (Formerly "Best song ever?")

[OB1]

Argh! It only matters as much as you want it to, but the fact remains that it is, however trifling, A DIFFERENCE between both countries. That was my ONLY point. We can spend another WEEK fucking arguing that, and it won't change.

That's a very small difference. Everyone in Europe speaks at least two languages, and only around 60% of the population of Belgium speaks Dutch, and that's their own version of it (like how we have our own version of English and Austria has their own version of German). Your whole argument was that Canada and the U.S. are more different from each other than Holland and Belgium or Germany and Austria, which is completely untrue.

[A Black Falcon]

Yeah, as OB1 said, your 'difference' is minor and its really quite odd to push it as some huge cultural divide...

And as for immigration, completely wrong. Go back, read your American history, and think about it again... look at the history of immigrants in this country. How we've been a nation of often non-English speaking immigrants since soon after the founding of the country. They had to learn English soon? Wrong. Actually, these days they have to learn English sooner than ever before, I'd say... remember, before they could go into their immigrant community and live without any English at all, since large numbers would speak their same language... it took several generations to really make them American, and English speakers. Now? Because of the media and everything there is far more pressure to learn the language...

[Darunia]

your 'difference' is minor and its really quite odd to push it as some huge cultural divide...

Well, you finally admitted that it is a difference...which was my point all along, but now you're putting words in my mouth, telling me that I've been overstressing it when all I wanted to do was make you admit it. All of Europe is bilingual...well no shit sherlock. Somehow that effects Canadian-American resemblances? I know Canada isn't the only bilingual country, I just said that to set it apart from America. Christ; a goron just can't win nowadays.

*Extends peace offering to Canada*

[OB1]

I think Darunia forgot that this is a message board where what you say is always on record.

Oh, so the world-leading, English-speaking USA is more alike to the tame, blingual, backwater Canada than:

-Austria and Germany?
-Czech Republic and Slovak Republic?
-Belgium and Holland?
-Malta and Italy?


Methinks not, gentlemen.

So tell me, Darunia, what exactly did that post mean?

[A Black Falcon]

He meant the exact opposite, of course! Isn't it so obvious?

[Darunia]

Touché. Allow me to repudiate that statement.

OB1 sides with a Canadian in a Canada vs. America debate. Talking about sleeping with the enemy... selling your soul.

*Withdraws peace offering to Canada; vows bloody, savage war to the end for their insolence*

[OB1]

I'm siding with Canada because I've actually been to Europe and know that Canada and the U.S. are more similar than Belgium and Holland or Austria and Germany??

[N-Man]

I would just like to spend some time in this ridiculous thread to point out that people in Quebec are mostly are not bilingual, but rather unilingual francophones. The area with the highest bilingual population is the Montreal-Ottawa axis, and two-tonguedness is proeminent amongst Franco-Ontarians and the anglophones of the Montreal suburbs (aka West Island). Basically, Frenchies living in Ontario, and Anglos living in Quebec are more likely to pick up both languages. New Brunswick is also reputed as the only bilingual province in the country, and I suspect a high number of Acadians speak both their native messed-up French as well as English.

Official numbers tell you 43% of all Quebecers claim they are bilingual, but to tell the truth, all the "bilingual" people I've seen outside Montreal speak English about as well as I speak Serbo-Croat.

[A Black Falcon]

Huh... really? I'd think it'd be more like much of Western Europe where most everyone knows two languages at least semi-decently...

As for Darunia, its just so easy to prove you wrong that arguing with you really isn't very fun. :)

[Darunia]

Espèce de merde.

Regardless of what you say, it still is a matter of opinion what countries are more similar than others. You think that Canada and the USA are a lot more alike than any two European countries. I beg to differ. Alas, an impasse.

[OB1]

Wait, a few posts ago you said that you didn't think that, and then I quoted you saying that you did think that and you admitted defeat! Which one is it??

[A Black Falcon]

Darunia, Darunia, Darunia... why must you prove my point so obviously so many times? It'd really be best if you didn't try... making a fool of yourself in such a blatant way is never pleasant to pick apart. Its too easy to be fun...

[alien space marine]

I think Darunia needs to buy his own island and create his own country, Then he can beg for foreign aid!

[Darunia]

Which one is it??

I don't even know anymore. :p


*Abdicates*

[alien space marine]

Do I get a cookie?!!

[A Black Falcon]

Darunia, couldn't you at least present one consistent opinion?

[OB1]

You do the same thing sometimes, ABF. Change your opinion depending on the argument.

[A Black Falcon]

But not like that, with no reason and no explanations...

[OB1]

Sure ya do.

Well okay, not quite like that, but sort of the same thing.

[A Black Falcon]

Definitely not like that. If I change an opinion I give a reason! If I'm not sure I'd say so... unlike Darunia here who decided to strongly advocate one position and then completely reverse his arguement and argue for the other side with no explanantion...

[OB1]

You've changed your opinion simply for the sake of being on the opposing side a few times in the past.

[A Black Falcon]

I don't think so...

[OB1]

Well of course you don't.

[alien space marine]

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!


Canada rules yah!

[A Black Falcon]

Because I don't!

[OB1]

But of course.



Silicon Knights is located in Canada.

[A Black Falcon]

Strategy First, the makers of Disciples, are in Montreal... :)

[Darunia]

They had a hand in making Cossacks, too, which as we all know is the best RTS ever.

[A Black Falcon]

Best ever? Not even close. I've played Cossacks... its in the same class as Age of Empires. I think I like AoE a bit more, actually... and of course Blizz's RTSes blow away the rest of the genre by a very long distance.

[OB1]

Montreal is also home to Ubi Soft's Montreal Studios, who made the terrific Splinter Cell and are making the super-friggin-insanely-cool Prince of Persia (I have the demo and it's so damn cool you wouldn't believe it) and the X-Box version of Rainbow Six. Them's some talented folks.