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    The next XBox will apparently be a PC.
    Dark Jaguar
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    #1
    3rd July 2025, 10:58 PM
    https://www.polygon.com/xbox/607616/micr...en-xbox-pc

    This is where it's heading.  MS is positioning their next XBox to essentially run on regular Windows, have access to multiple stores, be more or less "open", and just... basically use the exact same executables as the PC releases... that is, literally just running the PC version of the software without it needing to be "ported" exactly, just to add in features supporting XBox specific stuff like parties and the like... which many PC releases already do now.

    I can't honestly think of a single way this is bad at this point.  What it means is that I don't need to buy the next XBox, not even as a collector.  They've essentially moved to making gaming PCs with XBox branding, and I'm all for it.  Of course, now that 30% of Windows 11 code is now created by AI, and more and more staff are being let go at MS, on top of forcing AI into things, I'm growing more and more averse to anything MS related anyway (as well as Google for that matter), but this particular idea seems like a good one.

    Sony, ball's in your court.  Will the PS6 basically become a fancy Linux box, running exactly the same executables as the PC games, in just this same way?  If so, we'll only need one or the other, or just a fancy PC.  That'll make things far easier, and cheaper, for us as a whole, while these titans of industry, who have been selling their consoles at a loss for a few generations now, won't have to worry about that any more either.

    Now, I have my doubts Sony would take that step, since they won the past two generations (against MS at least, Nintendo won overall with their Switch), but the very fact it's a possibility is telling.

    Nintendo?  No way on earth.  Nintendo do their own thing and would never concede it, unless absolutely forced to.  That said, things like the Steamdeck and NVidia Shield, and MS's own upcoming take on Switch style hardware with that Steamdeck concept of just being a portable PC (only running Windows instead of Linux, of course), well, Nintendo doesn't really have much to offer to make their hardware stand out at that point.  It'll be just their games alone.  So far, that's been enough, but if they erode their fan's good will further like they've been doing lately... they may push themselves into a corner.

    Anyway, Sony and Nintendo adopting that strategy is purely speculative on my part, but MS at least seem to be taking the plunge.
    "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
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    16th September 2025, 9:46 AM
    I think the convergence of gaming hardware is inevitable. Xbox will be at a huge disadvantage in terms of net graphical performance because of resource overhead imposed by the shittiness (which seems to be growing due to the issues you mentioned) of Windows. But it won't matter since it's not clear graphics matter anymore. They can just pump up the frame-gen some more, too.

    The one dream I have is that Windows will eventually collapse because of the AI bullshit: we'll come to a point where no human at MS knows how windows works anymore--where no one can even begin to untangle the spaghetti. Then they should just throw it all out--start with a clean(-ish) slate--and make Windows a Linux wrapper, with some kind of emulation or virtualization layer for running legacy Windows apps. My dream is that the collapse of Windows forces MS to be more responsible about development going forward, and finally bring some consumer polish to desktop Linux.

    Nintendo? iono.
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    16th September 2025, 7:11 PM
    I'm not sure there's any evidence the backend of the XBox Series OS is causing performance issues on that platform compared to the PS5's performance.  With that said, welcome to Tendo City, a tiny forum that was once directly linked to from Nintendo's own web site way back when companies actually did stuff like that.  We mainly talk about whatever's going on in the video james, which are like real games, but played on a TV using what's called a "Joy Stick".
    "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
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    Yesterday, 12:19 AM
    I think there will definitely be performance issues assuming Xbox runs regular Windows in the future. But all I'm basing this on is videos on YouTube bemoaning the _ % difference in framerates going from Windows to Linux on PC.

    Do you remember any of my posts by any chance? I used to post, I think in a prior iteration of this forum (since etoven could find no record of my having ever registered on this iteration of the forum; I may have started just lurking after around 2000). I don't know the history of the domain/infrastructure changes. I remember making the Rumble City cow graphic using an ancient copy of Photoshop but I can see there is no longer a Rumble City.

    I was actually looking old ICQ files that I have around from the 1990s and that is how I found my way back here. I have yours along with a bunch of other peoples' (from Tendo City/Rumble City and Nintendorks) ICQ numbers and profiles in those files apparently (sounds like a privacy nightmare actually, right--but that's the digital reality we live in...? iono). I'm also realizing more than ever that human memory really sucks--or mine does anyway, as I don't remember anything about some people I used to talk to online. Also, nostalgia's great!
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