Political Compass

[Weltall]

I think we did one of these a long time ago. In any case, I've done loads of thinking and tweaking of my political philosophy over the past few years.

The results may surprise.

Economic Left/Right: -2.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79

[Dark Jaguar]

What's all this then? Did you get that from a site?

[Weltall]

lmao, I did forget that crucial element, didn't I?

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

[Unreadphilosophy]

Eh. Some of those questions are rough. Some of them are pretty basic for me--e.g., the freer the market, the freer the people--but others aren't so straight forward.

[Weltall]

I think it could really use a neutral option. Some of the questions are loaded, too.

I can't find a better example of this, though. If you can, by all means, contribute.

[Unreadphilosophy]

^I agree with the "neutral" option as well.

Oh, and here's a quiz that many people like:
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz

[Weltall]

That test pegs me as a Libertarian. Personal, 100%, Economic, 70%

I would have liked to see more questions.

[Weltall]

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It's the same basic idea but considerably more detailed.

[Unreadphilosophy]

^Take a guess at where I'm positioned. ;D

[Weltall]

THE GOVERNMENT MUST REPAY ME EVERY CENT OF TAXES I'VE EVER PAID PLUS INTEREST AT THE MEAN RATE OF MY ENTIRE LIFE? ;D

[A Black Falcon]

Done some of this stuff before... the Political Compass site for sure.

This time:




http://www.theadvocates.org/ :

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%

Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 10%

Political Compass doesn't seem to do a great job of distinguishing the economic side...

[Unreadphilosophy]

For some odd reason, the picture won't post here. Here's the link to mine:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz_result?....gif&p=100

[Sacred Jellybean]

This seems about right, somewhere on the border of liberal and lolbertarian.

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[Unreadphilosophy]

It looks like everyone here is a libertarian in some way. Congrats, guys. We represent a small group of Americans that can still think.:)

[Dark Jaguar]

Some of those questions were idiotic. What does astrology have to do with my political ideas? That one's more a test on whether or not I'm rational.

In the end, it felt more like a magazine's "personality quiz".

<img src="http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.50&soc=-5.49">

Yes, some of them were rather skewed. In general, I'm for corporate freedom up until a certain limit, since individuals are simply more important to me. Further, libertarian thought isn't exactly my thinking. The general flaw with that whole thing to me is they seem to think that a free market wouldn't ALLOW bad things to happen, that all high level executives making decisions always make enlightened ones that consider consequences to them in the long run, that no one ever rips anyone off, and heck, that no one CAN be ripped off as though everyone always has perfect knowledge of every transaction. Every time I see the sales of homeopathic medicine, that's all I need to see to realize that's simply not true. Something can be completely ineffective and still dominate in a free market. Controls are needed to at least make sure a product does what it claims to do. Ayn Rand was a moron.

[Weltall]

Try the one Beanjo did. I found it to be highly superior to the Compass. The questions are more relevant and the choices have more degrees.

[alien space marine]

A link to mine

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[A Black Falcon]

Try the one Beanjo did. I found it to be highly superior to the Compass. The questions are more relevant and the choices have more degrees.

I didn't like that, actually. The answers have too much detail, so in many cases I didn't really agree with any of the selections...

[Geno]

Same general standing as the rest of you.

[Dark Jaguar]

I still think it's hilariously pointless to ask if I think abstract art counts as art. Yes or no, how is that political in any way? Also, some questions are weirdly combined. Do I think the government should fund theater AND museums? Well, what if I think one is worth it but the other isn't? I'm not thinking of art museums when I hear that... I'll check out the other thingy.

By the way, I love it when libertarians say the government should be run like a business, and then demand a lot of restrictions on it, contrary to how they say other businesses should be run. I mean, if they believe a land owner should be able to demand whatever they want of their tenants or be free to evict them, then by extension, why would that be different for the US government-as-landowner? If you can't pay rent (taxes), you get evicted to Mexico, or killed since every last scrap of land is owned by someone these days.

[Dark Jaguar]

Well this quiz still has options that don't quite line up (my thinking on immigrants for example, that I don't think "dilution of culture" is actually a problem, even if it does happen (since in that scenario, the majority is still speaking a common language), and further that I still think illegal immigrants are taking jobs without paying taxes, HOWEVER I am perfectly willing to simply open the gates and allow any illegal to become a legal so long as they start paying taxes, and if not, then they can leave, my sympathies end at the point they reject that national responsibility).

I think objectivists wrote this. I mean, just read the "lead ins" to each question. It seems clear they put the "correct" answer last in every case. In the case of employee discrimination, yes certain laws need to be in place to help this issue. No, the free market is not going to "punish" infringers, and really, wouldn't that be a horribly uncaring way to go about it even if there was some evidence it worked like that? While the market is "correcting itself", that woman is still being sexually harassed, that black person is still being treated like a potential thief. Considering the "me me me" attitude of objectivists, you'd think they'd appreciate that justice deferred to a later generation isn't justice at all. Eh, there's at least an option close enough to what I think on it... (Yes, I do acknowledge that some people can blow something way out of proportion, and certain legal solutions to those abuses of the law should be brought to bear.) Oh, and yes the one-sided draft registration should be changed in some way. Making it fully voluntary just to sign up for a draft except in emergencies is a start. Huh, I've never thought of military training electives at school. That's... certainly a vivid image. "Any country using a draft to defend itself deserves to lose."? Really? That's about the most idiotic white washing of every other factor I can think of...

I also love the general weirdness of how so many of those, from retirement to school, assume that people can't currently pick their own solution to these things. They're free to, they just can't get out of taxes. Boo hoo. If I'm not going to excuse an immigrant, why would I excuse a native-born?


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Apparently I'm more socialist in this run-through... I guess... I don't really feel that way. They really didn't ask about the myriad of ways I think government should stay OUT of business affairs, so that's probably why I got weighted down that way. I know I get on the case of big businesses making stupid decisions sometimes, and often mock objectivists, but I really do consider communists just as deluded and harmful, if only in the opposite direction. It's just that, contrary to what Fox News would say, there really aren't any big communist speakers these days. Show me one and I'll get on their case.

[Fittisize]

I took all three of them. Here's how I scored.



<a href="http://www.quiz2d.com/quiz/Radical_Liberal.php"><img border=0px alt="Radical Liberal on political map" src="http://www.quiz2d.com/quiz/resultGraph.php?picfile=RadicalLiberal.png&personal=87.8&economic=11.7"> </a>

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%

Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 10%

I can't really find a good test from a Canadian perspective, but if I do, I'll post it. These quizzes are definitely designed for the American test-taker.

[Unreadphilosophy]

^DAMN COMMIE!!!

Also, where are you guys getting the blue quiz from???

[Unreadphilosophy]

" to each question. It seems clear they put the "correct" answer last in every case. In the case of employee discrimination, yes certain laws need to be in place to help this issue. No, the free market is not going to "punish" infringers,"

Not true. No business in today's day and age will survive for an hour if the people that the market caters to learn that the business in question is discriminating against a certain ethnicity. It would be torn to pieces. If you don't believe that, then you have not been paying attention to the fragile feelings that people have toward race for the past God knows how many years.

The market is capable of fixing what it needs to fix.


" The general flaw with that whole thing to me is they seem to think that a free market wouldn't ALLOW bad things to happen, that all high level executives making decisions always make enlightened ones that consider consequences to them in the long run, that no one ever rips anyone off, and heck, that no one CAN be ripped off as though everyone always has perfect knowledge of every transaction."

Again, that's not true. Where are you getting your information from? Advice: read Mises.

We know that bad things happen in a market. Issues happen all the time. What we understand is that those that make mistakes must face the consequences of their actions. No business is too big to fail. If you make a mistake, then you have to pay. Payment is having your good assets moved to a company or group of companies that have proven their worth, and watching as your bad assets go down the drain. Simple as that, my friend. No zombie banks. No bailouts. No inflation. FYI: Some banks were allowed to suffer to the market during the 08 mess. Those banks disappeared and had the "good stuff' moved to establishments that could handle themselves.

And, yeah, people are ripped-off. Your point being what? A "rip-off" isn't the fault of the company alone; the consumer has a hand in it as well. Consumers need to pay attention. They have options, and they need to take all of them into account. That's why we have competition.

"Ayn Rand was a moron."

Eh...no. Rand was on the right track with a lot of things. The problem is that she didn't get her ideas on capitalism correct all them time. She certainly wasn't an economist. That's why people like Mises and Rothbard had the brains to tell us how the market operates.

Read this if you have the time:
http://www.amazon.com/PLANNING-FREEDOM-M...636&sr=8-1

[Unreadphilosophy]

Here's another quiz result for me:

<b>My Political Views</b><br>I am a right social libertarian<br>Right: 7.02, Libertarian: 7.58<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/34x35.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>

[A Black Falcon]

^DAMN COMMIE!!!

Also, where are you guys getting the blue quiz from???

Click on it, the image is a link... :)

Here's another quiz result for me:

That's a pretty good one, good questions and fairly comprehensive. One of the better ones I've seen.



I'm in favor of interventions, provided that they are justified, such as for humanitarian reasons (Bosnia, etc.) or if we were attacked (Afghanistan)... just not when it is NOT justified, such as Iraq, etc.


This is definitely accurate.

[Dark Lord Neo]

Canada's having an election, and I know you've always wanted to know which Canadian party you're most like.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavo...tecompass/

[Great Rumbler]

<b>My Political Views</b><br>I am a left social moderate<br>Left: 5.58, Authoritarian: 0.38<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/9x19.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>

<b>My Foreign Policy Views</b><br>Score: -2.48<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n38.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>

<b>My Culture War Stance</b><br>Score: -1.41<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c43.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>

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