Ken Griffey Jr. Retires

[A Black Falcon]

:bummed:

The '90s really are over, aren't they...

It's really too bad that the second half of his career was so injury-damaged, he was so, so amazing for a long time that while he was great, he'd have been even greater had he avoided injury. However, even without that, he is #5 in the all-time home runs list, and one of the few superstars from the steroid era who appears to have been really been clean - a worthy achievement to be sure. It is to bad that it had to end early like this though, early in the season and when he is only 40... I know, he wasn't playing much this year or doing well this year yet, but still, it's too bad. Still, his overall career was outstanding, and he certainly was one of the great baseball players of all time.

If he'd been healthy, though...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/st...id=5247355

[Great Rumbler]

He's no Bo Jackson.

[Weltall]

His Super Nintendo baseball game cheated like a motherfucker.

[A Black Falcon]

He's no Bo Jackson.

Ken Griffey Jr. was one of the greatest baseball players ever, while Bo was an average one famous mostly just for playing two sports at the same time (and his videogames). Sorry, no comparison.

(I know you're joking, but it's the truth.)

His Super Nintendo baseball game cheated like a motherfucker.

I had the first Ken Griffey Game Boy game, didn't really like it at all... it was one of only two games I sold back in the '90s, actually, along with my most hated Game Boy game, Toy Story. Hardball III for the PC was such a better game, outdated rosters or no... I know a lot of people did like the Ken Griffey games though, and I was interested because they were from Nintendo, but it's just not the style of baseball game I like best, unfortunately.

[EdenMaster]

Only ABF can fully realize a statement being made jokingly, yet still argue it with all seriousness.

What would we do without you, ABF?

:D

[Great Rumbler]

Bo Jackson would catch Griffey's hit to center and then tackle him at first base.

[Weltall]

Bo Jackson was, by no means, average. He was incredible in football, at least. He simply wasn't durable enough to last. He very well could have been a hall-of-famer had he lasted.

And, I can never think of Griffey, Jr. without thinking of his damn SNES game, and how the CPU opponent would score 40 runs in the ninth inning when I'd lead by 24 at the end of the eighth.

[Dark Jaguar]

Which SNES game you talking about? There were two, one by Rare and the other by someone else.

[A Black Falcon]

Bo Jackson was, by no means, average. He was incredible in football, at least. He simply wasn't durable enough to last. He very well could have been a hall-of-famer had he lasted.

Bo's baseball career was 8 seasons, evidently (versus four for football), .250 average, 140 home runs... maybe that's above average, okay, but it's certainly nowhere near Ken Griffey Jr.'s "one of the greatest players ever" level.

[Weltall]

Yunno, I didn't know there were two of them, and looking at the two, I can't remember which one it is. I only borrowed it, and that was fifteen years ago.

[Dark Jaguar]

Well all we know from what you said is it's ridiculously hard so... I'm going to guess Rare's. BAAZING!

[Great Rumbler]

Bo's baseball career was 8 seasons, evidently (versus four for football), .250 average, 140 home runs... maybe that's above average, okay, but it's certainly nowhere near Ken Griffey Jr.'s "one of the greatest players ever" level.

The last three seasons didn't really count though.

[Weltall]

Well all we know from what you said is it's ridiculously hard so... I'm going to guess Rare's. BAAZING!

It's not hard, it's unfair. The CPU team suddenly starts playing flawlessly when it's behind late in the game.

[Dark Jaguar]

Ah, but you see, that's a standard cludge in these things. Humans have a natural advantage, so the CPU generally ALWAYS has to cheat in competitive games. There's a mantra in game design, "don't be afraid to cheat". Starcraft does it, Mario Kart REALLY does it, and sports games likely do it too.

[alien space marine]

Yes , American Rugby

[Dark Jaguar]

What does that have to do with... anything?

[Weltall]

I know that computer players cheat in these kinds of games, because I've played many. This one remains the most blatant and annoying example I can remember.

[Dark Jaguar]

When remaking my Double Dash file, I did a few tests to confirm my suspicians. Sure enough, the computer players not only NEVER use items against anyone other than the human players, but when they are behind, they start literally cheating by flying through the course way faster than is actually possible.

[A Black Falcon]

Well of course, how fun would games be if they were actually fair? I mean, doesn't everyone love racing games where every computer is always right behind you if you're in first, so that if you make one mistake you fall to last place in an instant? Especially when they also have weapons to shoot you with? It's so much fun!

I know some sports games do do things like that too, I've heard that NBA Jam AI cheats to keep the game close for instance.

[Dark Jaguar]

Starcraft does the same thing when fighting AI players. Without fail they cooperate to take out the human players first, and by cooperate I mean they almost seem to share resources.