March 2010 is already our biggest month in nearly four years

[Great Rumbler]

Through the 23rd of this month we've had 1,082 posts. To put that into a bit of perspective, the last time we had more than one thousand posts in a month was back in April 2007 when we had 1,067 posts. The last time we had more than 1,082 posts in a month was back in May 2006 when we had 1,438 posts.

[Weltall]

oh shit

[Great Rumbler]

Start posting like crazy, guys! We've got to show May 2006 who's boss!!

[Geno]

Fuck you, May 2006! Out with the old and in with the new! I expect to see more spam posts just like this one that I am posting right now! Granted, that constitutes about 75% of the posts here anyway, but... let's make that 95%!

[Darunia]

/bow

[Geno]

[Unreadphilosophy]

Spam posting is one of my specialties!

[Great Rumbler]

Well, when I say "post like crazy" what I really mean is "post like crazy, but try to be coherent". It's an important distinction!

[Unreadphilosophy]

^Based on what I've seen from past threads, coherence doesn't appear to be something that's dominant here.

[lazyfatbum]

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[Unreadphilosophy]

^I rest my case.

[A Black Falcon]

^Based on what I've seen from past threads, coherence doesn't appear to be something that's dominant here.

Hey, at least we're past the days of half of the posts being a smilie or two and nothing else...

Now we use Youtube videos or random images instead. :)

[Unreadphilosophy]

Hey, at least we're past the days of half of the posts being a smilie or two and nothing else...

Now we use Youtube videos or random images instead. :)

[lazyfatbum]

Doesn't he type well for a retard though? He even spell checks, show me a retard you know that spell checks. That's impressive.

[Sacred Jellybean]

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Some years back, someone here was asking about the appeal of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. "Why don't people flock to another campy musical, say, Little Shop of Horrors?" I didn't end up seeing LSoH until years later, but god damn, I loved it. Audrey is awkward in how mousy she is, Steve Martin hams it up, Rick Moranis is an em-effin' shoe-in, and the plant puppetry is actually pretty damned impressive. Speaking of which, since the thing was so huge, and the lip parts so bulky and slow, they had to speed up footage of its speaking parts to seem normal. In frames where you see other actors singing with it, the actor is actually lip-syncing in slow motion.

And the SONGS! I would give my first-born-child to have three black teenage girls follow me around and sing the narration of my life.

When someone was making the aforementioned point above, I think I responded that the intersect of camp, homage to older science-fiction and horror B-movies, confused sexuality, catchy tunes, and Tim Curry in stockings and four-inch-heels is both profoundly disturbing and fascinating. That's still true today, but having seen I've seen Little Shop of Horrors, I would love to see a cult following for this flick. Performing it onstage in front of a movie screen would be more difficult, but I'd sure as hell go, and dress up as one of the characters.

Yum yum, goth girls with low self-esteem in a low-cut top, no bra, a Mary-Sue haircut, talking in a voice that's almost Jennifer Tilly and somehow even more annoying.

[Unreadphilosophy]

Doesn't he type well for a retard though? He even spell checks, show me a retard you know that spell checks. That's impressive.

Who are you addressing, Lazy?

[alien space marine]

Who are you addressing, Lazy?

I wouldn't get upset over Lazy

In all likeliness, Its probably me he is taking cheap shots at.

[Unreadphilosophy]

^I didn't say he was addressing that at me.

[Geno]

Hey, at least we're past the days of half of the posts being a smilie or two and nothing else...

Now we use Youtube videos or random images instead. :)

[Sacred Jellybean]

WE CAN DO IT FUCK MAY 2006 WOOOO

Fuck, May 2006 was the time I fell off a 2nd story balcony. Seriously, fuck that month and that year.

[alien space marine]

WE CAN DO IT FUCK MAY 2006 WOOOO

Fuck, May 2006 was the time I fell off a 2nd story balcony. Seriously, fuck that month and that year.

Fuck the 2000's all together

and by the way, How did that happen?

[Sacred Jellybean]

Think of a festive Mexican holiday that takes place in May... that may or may not have had something to do with it. I'm not proud of it. D:

[alien space marine]

Think of a festive Mexican holiday that takes place in May... that may or may not have had something to do with it. I'm not proud of it. D:

Cinco de Mayo?

The commemorative festival of Mexico's victory over Napoleon III forces at Puebla.

[Unreadphilosophy]

I'm guessing a little too much alcohol was involved.

[Weltall]

Well, it's not as though Napoleon III was any great wizard at winning wars or anything.

[Darunia]

Only the Mexicans would make a national holiday out of a small-scale victory in a war that was lost.

France went on to occupy Mexico for several years after Cinco de Mayo.

Poor, pathetic Mexico.

[A Black Falcon]

Only the Mexicans would make a national holiday out of a small-scale victory in a war that was lost.

Probably the most famous Chinese historical novel, The Romance of the Three Kingdoms, has as its main characters (and idealized heroes) one of the losing sides in the war...

[Darunia]

And that has what to do with Cinco de Mayo?

[alien space marine]

Only the Mexicans would make a national holiday out of a small-scale victory in a war that was lost.

France went on to occupy Mexico for several years after Cinco de Mayo.

Poor, pathetic Mexico.

Exactly why did France invade Mexico anyway?

[Weltall]

So that they'd have time to examine what life would be like with a unified Germany as a neighbor.

[A Black Falcon]

Just saying that Mexico isn't the only ones who celebrate defeat... there are many other cases. How about Thermopylae or the Alamo, for instance? Sure, those are just single losing battles in wars that were eventually won, but still, they were losing battles...

[Geno]

So that they'd have time to examine what life would be like with a unified Germany as a neighbor.

Are you implying that America was united during 1862? Things were worse then than they are now. :)

[Weltall]

No, I'm implying that a unified Germany made a habit out of kicking the shit out of France once per generation until 1945.

[lazyfatbum]

Just saying that Mexico isn't the only ones who celebrate defeat... there are many other cases. How about Thermopylae or the Alamo, for instance? Sure, those are just single losing battles in wars that were eventually won, but still, they were losing battles...

I was talking about ABF, look at his spelling. He even capitalizes countries, do you know hard that is for a retard? The dude cant even wipe. Cant even fucking wipe, but he can type like a mother fuck.

Little Shop of Horrors was my first venture in to the genius of Steve Martin and Rick Moranis and musicals in general, I then went nuts finding every film they were in. My favorite Steve Martin role was in Plains Trains and Automobiles for personal reasons and of course Rick's best is in his music but his acting is great too, he brings something to the table thats rarely scene in films - sincerity (even as a gravedigger, which was lol) I bet you'd love Agoraphobic Cowboy which is fucking hilarious and he made it because he's a bizarre depressed Canadian. His Dark Helmet character has to be his best, I wonder if he agrees. No matter how many times I see that movie, when ever he flips his mask up and goes from a deep and sultry Rastafarian english professor with more confidence than a porn star to his whirlwind of ineptitude with the voice of a teenager who doesn't quite fit in (in any given situation) I chortle heartily. He has an amazing voice.

Steve Martin was the perfect choice for dentist... if they re-did it they'd have to get Jim Carrey but he might over-do the physical comedy. Steve Martin's facial expressions were perfect but Ellen Greene stole the show with her amazing songs. That fucking plant... still gives me nightmares. I cant look at tentacle rape porn because I always imagine the tentacles are actually coming from an Audrey II off-screen yucking it up as the hapless virgins are orgasm'd to death. I thought the parallel of the affection he gave to the plant was interesting because the plant was literally his 'work'. The more lonely and the more attention he put in to 'work' the more he was noticed (getting Audrey's attention too), but then his work became all he was and the plant, with actual ROOTS was solidifying him in the ghetto and doing the opposite of what he was hoping to accomplish (then his 'work' was going to spread out of the ghetto, but leave Rick's character behind). I didnt understand the importance of electrocuting the plant tho, iconically he should have chopped off the roots or.... something. Something that let Rick physically overcome his connection to the plant instead of literally connecting him to it. I dunno, reading too far in I guess.

Anyway your love of Little Shop of Horrors is shared. :D I made a puppet in 6th grade out of monkey mask parts that I painted green and memorized all the songs and got beat up, it was awesome.

[Great Rumbler]

March 2010 is now officially our biggest month since September 2005.

[Darunia]

Exactly why did France invade Mexico anyway?

I don't know everything, but I know that Napoleon III coveted an American Empire. Once the American Civil War ended, however, it became known that the US wouldn't tolerated European powers scheming in our own backyard (Monroe Doctrine.)

Just saying that Mexico isn't the only ones who celebrate defeat... there are many other cases. How about Thermopylae or the Alamo, for instance?

Touché.

No, I'm implying that a unified Germany made a habit out of kicking the shit out of France once per generation until 1945.

Touché.

[etoven]

Touché.

Do I smell defeat for the Goron empire?

[Geno]

Do I smell defeat for the Goron empire?

Of course. It's Tendo City's own France. :)

[Sacred Jellybean]

My favorite Steve Martin role was in Plains Trains and Automobiles for personal reasons

God yes, this. I watched this for the first time a few months ago, and if you can stomach some good ol' fashioned John Hughes sentimentality, it's one of the best movies of its year. I find myself looking up scenes from it on youtube sometimes (such as "You wanna hurt me?" and the scene where Steve Martin flips out on the car rental clerk), similar to how a person can listen to a good song more than once and still enjoy it.

I bet you'd love Agoraphobic Cowboy

Most unexpectedly, there's not enough demand out there for there to be any torrent seeders for this.

:(

I didn't know the Rick Moranis was Canadian, but somehow it makes perfect sense. Having a gaydar is apparently common, but I've never met anyone with a Candar. He's just mousy enough to be one of'em, and not the buff French Lumberjack kind.

I don't know about Jim Carrey to replace Steve Martin, I don't think he could pull it back enough. Maybe if Jim Carrey coached Sam Rockwell to do it, I think that would strike a good balance. I don't know if Rockwell alone can be manic enough.

I thought the parallel of the affection he gave to the plant was interesting because the plant was literally his 'work'. The more lonely and the more attention he put in to 'work' the more he was noticed (getting Audrey's attention too), but then his work became all he was and the plant, with actual ROOTS was solidifying him in the ghetto and doing the opposite of what he was hoping to accomplish (then his 'work' was going to spread out of the ghetto, but leave Rick's character behind).

You're close with the roots part, sorta. Little Shop of Horrors is a story about race relations and Black Power. You've got an exotic plant that's from a place far from our own, a jungle-like brush with a tangle of vines that sprout from a bulb that talks with an obvious black accent. It comes to our world during a solar eclipse, a darkening of our skies and our atmosphere, snuffing out our bright white beacon. It comes from outer space, where dark, black matter is dominant and faint white stars are the minority.

It comes to claim what rightfully belongs to it, but does so in a sneaky fashion. It enters show business as a nonthreatening singing and dancing minority, a monkey to dance for the white man, who in turns receives money and fame of his own. Indeed, this theme is puncuated throughout the movie with a cute trio of black girls who sing and dance to us, perhaps to lull us into a false sense of security so we can warm up to a no-nonsense talking Mr. T of a plant who's after our houses and our jobs.

At the very beginning, though, it's clear that the roles are oddly reversed in this model of ringmaster and elephant, that the plant is a vampire that lives off the blood of his master, not vice-versa. As the star attraction, he comes to call the shots and manipulate his keeper.

While the other african american folks in Skid Row have roots in the community, so does the exotic and alien plant stick in its own roots, this is a literal idea that's thrown in to help you understand the underpinnings of the story.

In the original screenplay (and indeed you can see deleted scenes of this on youtube, in black-and-white no less), the plant ends up prevailing and taking over the world, restoring the rightful owner of the universe, dominating and destroying the former king of earth, the white man.

I didnt understand the importance of electrocuting the plant tho

It's a callback to capital punishment against a negro plant for getting uppity.

You're right about Ellen Greene having an awesome voice, I love how in Suddenly Seymour she sounds so shy and quiet, then nearly mid-verse starts belting it out. She plays a Mary-Sue type girl who can't survive without a man, she wants to be a stay-at-home wife and mother in the suburbs. She's a woman who knows her role, purpose, and place, below a man, which is why she goes with Steve Martin. She accepts his abuse until she realizes she could be subjugated in a more non-violent and traditional "family values" manner. She finds a man who laughingly shows her the folly of her irrational female ways so he can pat her on the butt to go bake some muffins.

The plant represents a threat to those family values with its urban lifestyle, it represents a threat to the status quo, and the last surviving plant you see in the closing shot is an indicator that you can move to better neighborhoods but the bottom feeders will still always find a way to get back, doing all they can to chip away at your empire.

It can also be interpretted as mother nature, the plant is perhaps has some feminine characteristics, its yawning mouth is like a bloodthirsty vagina. Its kills by grabbing, absorbing, consuming. It kills Steve Martin first, who uses start-of-the-art phallic-shaped dental equipment to probe and torture smaller mouths (maybe these are vaginas who aren't so bloodthirsty because many belong to children and by this token Bill Murray is as much of a masochistic drag queen in this as he is in Ed Wood). It's man vs. woman, technology/science vs. nature, not unlike some themes you could pick up from Jurassic Park. Man defeats woman and domesticates her as a ho-hum gawky housewife at the end.

[Darunia]

Half-hour to midnight and to April! We have to post like mad and cram in as many as we can! Let's make this the most productive month EVER!

[Sacred Jellybean]

How far off are we? Where do you find those statistics?

[Sacred Jellybean]

1567 posts for March 2010, bitches! Well, 1568 now. Good job punching out May 2006 guys!

[Great Rumbler]

This has been our biggest month since September 2005. There's not much chance of us beating that month however since it had about 2,400 posts.