20th November 2007, 5:54 PM
alien space marine Wrote:The hypnosis thing isn't true; There is propaganda and misinformation; Hypnotic control thing is bogus I am not saying your under hypnosis.
The Bush Administration did present a pile of bogus propaganda like the tracker trailers and African powder cakes before the war . It waisnt incompetence they had a goal of going into Iraq for years in advance there was even a Iraqi liberation act passed in 1998; That pretty much says it all;They wanted to find any means to sell it and manufacture anything to gain consent from the public ;They didn't care if the intel was credible or not.
Precisely. That's not propaganda, it's incompetence.
Quote: You don't think that special interest and wealthy opportunist have some sway of how things are run? Is your goverment incorruptible?
My government is incorruptible, as it is led by the unflappable hairdo of The Right Honorable Stephen Harper. In the United States however, lobbyist groups are legal and regulated. Call it corruption if you like.
Quote:The term banana republic comes from Guatemala
The capital of Poland is Warsaw
Quote:That was the McCarthyism era when people were claiming that Pornography and rock in roll had links to communism.
McCarthyism has nothing to do with it. Containment was a major part of US policy straight up to 1989.
Quote:I am not convinced that Guzman had any strong ties to the soviet union and was framed by the elite of who were upset about his landreforms;What he was doing was no different then what America did in the 1800's.
Land reform in 19th century USA. Sure, I guess after Dr. Freud's mind control machines that's not so far-fetched.
You know what land reform is, you tell me if it indicates a socialist bent or not.
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It still proof that America runs undemocratic satraps abroad. The CIA replaced him with a repressive Junta after Operation PBSUCCESS; Many Guatemalans died and the soldiers and personnel of the military state are guilty of raping the women of the country side among other things; Washington did not give a hoot so long as it waisnt a soviet satellite like Cuba and a America friendly goverment open to free trade;They supported Batista before Castro came in and the mafia ran Cuba.
Now you're getting it.
Quote:Due to the fact it was CIA interference that brought in the Junta ; Guatemalans blaim you for all the evils of that period on your country.
They blame ME?! A pox on Guatemala.
Containment is a doctrine developed by American strategists, notably George Kennan in his Long telegram. It basically states that the communist system will eventually fall apart from its own failures, and that the only duty of the democracies is to contain its expansion - through military means - throughout the world until the USSR implodes. You will run across many other instances of the USA removing a democratically-elected (or not) government in South America over the course of the Cold War. This isn't because there are secret masters from the Bavarian Illuminati controlling everything, it's because such coups were part of an all-encompassing doctrine of military containment against the USSR. That they led to undemocratic governments is unfortunate but ultimately irrelevant, as worldwide democracy was not so much the USA's objective as fighting communism was.
Whether money interests precipitated this or that coup can be interesting, but you are making a mistake in assuming that they were the primary driver of US Cold War foreign policy.