10th June 2007, 5:12 PM
Quote:What's next, sneaking that magazine subscription and lying about it being free was okay too?
I already replied to that point... I don't think that that's how it works. I did that 'free year of Game Informer (as I said, a magazine Gamestop owns)' thing once. They didn't demand payment; in fact, the easily available free subscriptions are a huge part of why Game Informer has such a huge reader base... as I said, my best guess is that that they were 'please resubscribe and pay this time' things? I'm not sure, but know for a fact that they DO give out free subscriptions to Game Informer.
Quote:Perhaps you should re-read the details. She specifically said she could in fact refund the money. I've gotten a few refunds myself. Sometimes a game is cancelled. They DO provide refunds, and this lady specifically said they DO do that, it was a computing error that said he already got the game (or something like that) which prevented him from getting back that money, and nothing else.
That's not what I remember hearing the one time I preordered something... as for cancellations, perhaps there, I'm not sure.
As for the "take money from the cash register" thing, etoven has that right. Can't do that.
Quote:Well you answered it. That's basically the problem. It is logically inconsistant of them to tell us we should accept their opened games as new (I don't know, I can't trust them, they've proven that to me many times before) and yet they won't accept my opened games as new. I can do all the same things they can, show them the box and book is all there, and the game is unplayed, and everything. They may still say "but it's used" but then I can say "well if you want I can wrap it up for you in this nice Santa Claus wrapping paper". They might take that as an insult though, imagine that. Hey, maybe I can even print out a "new" sticker (hand written by me) and stick it straight on the game sleeve so when they try to remove it there's a chance they might actually tear the plastic (happened to me a few times) and instantly render the game into a very obviously used condition.
NOW do you see my point?
"Many times before" they have given you used games as new? "Many"? Seriously? I'm sure that I've bought more new games at EB/Gamestop than anywhere else, and I have NEVER had that happen as far as I know... no save games on the file, scratched discs (well okay, that has happened, but it was with sealed PC games with bad CDs, something that they don't open... :))
Other than that, I can just repeat a few things: I don't think that just because they were opened by the store that the products are used. They are not. As a result, what they are doing isn't logically inconsistent. :) (As I said, the only thing those two things have in common are that they have financial explanations, but other than that they have nothing in common...)
Seriously, you're asking a very silly question. I mean, buying something and then trying to sell it while you're still in the store? Wha... why would someone do that? And you must know full well that as soon as that game is out of the store the store MUST consider it used. Sure damage may not be visible, but who knows... no, they do what they should. They just pay WAY too little for used games in order to make larger profits.
Of course, you used to be able to return games, no questions asked, but those policies went away with game copying and games with CD keys and stuff, and I don't think that those days will ever return... too many games now, particularly on the PC, don't let you easily transfer the game to someone else. Stores can't just let people return things at will... what would you say, "whether you can return it depends on what kind of game it is"? That would be INCREDIBLY confusing! They can't do that, they need a unified policy... so "no returns except for exchange, anything else is used" is the result. Kind of too bad, but game companies forced their hands.
Quote:(Still not sure why you want to actually touch the box before you buy it though... They all feel the same, it's the info you want.)
No they don't, different kinds of boxes feel different... I don't know, but it definitely matters. It's like the difference between reading something in a book and on a screen I guess... I like reading on screens, but it's just better to read it on paper... it's less annoying with DVD cases because those enclosures are less intrusive, but those boxes the handheld games get put in... ick. Bad.
To a small store though, I'd bet that it's the shelf space argument that would be the best one against them. And that's a good one too, I want them to have variety...
Quote:On thinking about it, I actually want to do a hidden camera gag involving that very stunt... I think it would be hilarious.
(Yes, I AM the person that sees a book by an ex-con advocating not using sun screen or saying cancer doesn't really exist and decides to e-mail the company telling them that selling such a book is damaging and they should stop and I'm very disappointed in them. Who DOES that? I do, well NOW I do. I care about these things and I get my complaints out there now. Mind you THAT example is certainly a lot more severe but it's still a "it doesn't really affect you, stop complaining and sit down" sort of thing.)
Hah... :)