8th December 2005, 2:21 PM
Um, kinda skimmed parts of that...
I don't care about the shroud. I didn't even know about it until my soph year in college. My physics prof actually was working on studying it and teaching was his side job. He was super into it, but I never really understood why. I wish he spent more time on teaching physics, cause I didn't get any of it! If it isn't the burial cloth, so what? If it is, so what? Is it supposed to have some power or something?
About the rest, I'm not really gonna debate this. Lazy, the only the I want to say is this: I do find it kinda ironic that you are convinced the things "religious" people believe are full of crap and have been changed to suit the weather, but you are certain that all that you have read and learned is 100% accurate.
You are talking about the most studied and most important historical document in the history of mankind (regardless of any spiritual value), but somehow you are the only one to have heard of these ideas. We live in a completely anti-Christian society these days- if what you said was true, why isn't it trumpeted from ever skyscraper in America. Less than 1/3 of this country even believes the Bible is true. If there was any real evidence for what you say, why don't I hear about it on the news or in college? But even the most anti-God profs I've had would kinda just hint that they thought that way. I guarantee if they had "proof" they would be all about screaming it every day.
Let's not get into Catholic-bashing. That's so lame, and I hear it a lot. I'm not into a lot of the religious ceremonies and I think there are some ideas that have been taken too far, but to label over 1 billion people as something is foolish to say the least. Just like every religion, there are Catholics (or Protestants or Budhists or Muslims) who simply follow religious rules without really believing it, and there are a bunch who do believe and who sincerely love Jesus and strive to live a righteous life through God's grace.
Because Jesus called himself God. As CS Lewis says, there can be only 2 choices about him. He was right and he is the Son of God, or he was insane.
You cannot take bits and pieces of his teachings to make some Create-a-god. Even though that seems to be the thing to do these days.
I don't care about the shroud. I didn't even know about it until my soph year in college. My physics prof actually was working on studying it and teaching was his side job. He was super into it, but I never really understood why. I wish he spent more time on teaching physics, cause I didn't get any of it! If it isn't the burial cloth, so what? If it is, so what? Is it supposed to have some power or something?
About the rest, I'm not really gonna debate this. Lazy, the only the I want to say is this: I do find it kinda ironic that you are convinced the things "religious" people believe are full of crap and have been changed to suit the weather, but you are certain that all that you have read and learned is 100% accurate.
You are talking about the most studied and most important historical document in the history of mankind (regardless of any spiritual value), but somehow you are the only one to have heard of these ideas. We live in a completely anti-Christian society these days- if what you said was true, why isn't it trumpeted from ever skyscraper in America. Less than 1/3 of this country even believes the Bible is true. If there was any real evidence for what you say, why don't I hear about it on the news or in college? But even the most anti-God profs I've had would kinda just hint that they thought that way. I guarantee if they had "proof" they would be all about screaming it every day.
Let's not get into Catholic-bashing. That's so lame, and I hear it a lot. I'm not into a lot of the religious ceremonies and I think there are some ideas that have been taken too far, but to label over 1 billion people as something is foolish to say the least. Just like every religion, there are Catholics (or Protestants or Budhists or Muslims) who simply follow religious rules without really believing it, and there are a bunch who do believe and who sincerely love Jesus and strive to live a righteous life through God's grace.
Quote:Why cant Jesus be a normal man who found God and taught the idea of God to us in one of our darkest times where we were basically at the mercy of the roman empire and almost completely lost our jewish heritage of the 'One God' ideal formed from a massive collection of important documents and stories from since the raw begining's of man?
Because Jesus called himself God. As CS Lewis says, there can be only 2 choices about him. He was right and he is the Son of God, or he was insane.
You cannot take bits and pieces of his teachings to make some Create-a-god. Even though that seems to be the thing to do these days.