2nd May 2005, 5:30 PM
Quote:In the computer market you have a standardized platform [with Windows, for the most part] while in the home console market you have competing platforms with their own set of exclusive [and some stadardized] titles.
So with in the videogame market the competition is mainly between consoles, deciding on which set of titles each person like the most. While in the computer market the competition comes down to the games because the list of chioces is basically the entire market of computer games, there may be a few that are Mac or Linux only but it's not big enough to really make a difference I think.
I think there was a Mac-exclusive game, once... :) (really, there were a few, but I don't know of any in recent years.) As for Linux, pretty much what it has is freeware. Neither platform makes a dent games-wise. So yes, that is a good point... it's the next part that makes it applicable to this debate, though.
Quote:Nintendo's exclusives are directly competiting with Sony's and MS's, because that's where the main choice is made, which set is more desirable. The multiplatform games find themselves in a bit of a doldrums when this choice is made, unless there is enough deviation to make a difference. Once the choice is made between the set of exclusive titles, then the market comes down to a competition between the set of exclusives that was chosen and the multiplatform games that are found in that market.
MS put the "exclusive" sticker on Doom3 because they are directly competing with the set of exclusives on the GC and the PS2. They want to differentiate their set of exclusives from the set of exclusive on the GC and PS2 and make it look better when directly compared.
Yes, definitely.
Quote:GR, and the PC is NOT included in that "you can only get it here!" thing... because? Maybe it's just me... and everyone else... but yeah, maybe I'm just not getting it but... what about what you just said makes consoles so different than the PC? From what I can tell, they release ports on the PC and on the consoles, and group it ALL together in the commercials. Last I checked, they DID advertise computers as competition to game machines. At least, that's what those idiots I heard arguing at Comp USA were talking about. Basically "why should I get this computer? I already have a Playstation", which, and I'm really having a hard time NOT seeing it this way, is very much the same argument as "why should I get a Gamecube, I already have a Playstation".
This is a good question. I'm not completely sure... I think the best arguement is sales. That is, PC game sales are noticably lower than console ones, so the PC market is less important to game developers... so they put less emphasis on it. Notice how you virtually never see TV ads for PC games (even on G4), while they're relatively common for console titles. That's because of sales.
The other reason is because of what GR said... on consoles, they're competing with two other systems, so any edge they can get up on the other two is an edge they will use... and exclusive games is one of the best of those. The fact that it's not truly exclusive won't get in the way if the other system is on is the one that's considered to be the "different" one. (and, as I've admitted, it does have a somewhat -- but not completely! -- different market)
Quote:And OB1, you may not be angry when you type your responses, that may well be the case. But one thing is certain, you certainly come off that way to a lot of people. I've been meaning to say this for a while but... sometimes you really do come off as very rude, as though you truly don't care about the other person's feelings. Now, I know your response is likely going to be along the lines of "ooooh sorry baby, did I make you cry?" followed by one of those crybaby images, but if you did that, you'd just be proving my point.
Hasn't he admitted before that he gets angry? Though in this thread that aspect at least isn't as bad as usual... the 'I'm better than you' is out in full force though.