11th March 2004, 6:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 11th March 2004, 6:17 PM by Dark Jaguar.)
Read the whole thing. My point was that the trifoce is that it's a completely different universe with a totally different triforce, meaning it wouldn't fit. I don't need to explain THAT triforce's motivation because my point was just that the triforce of the MAIN series wouldn't do that. The one in the oracle side story series DOES seem to have a sense of good and evil though. Also, considering that Zelda easily just walked to those lands herself, as well as Impa, I think we can safely say those two lands are just other countries beyond Hyrule, not other worlds. The triforce just had to send him there quickly.
And yes, Wind Waker is tough, but it's absolutely confirmed by Miyamoto and most other elements in the plot that it IS within the timeline. So, as for that, the simplest explanation I can come up with is one of these two. The first is that the "ganon" you face in Wind Waker is actually just a shadow created by Ganon (just like Agahnim), which makes sense since when you "kill" him he turns to stone. He's perhaps much more directly controlled, and Ganon realized his flaw in making him so recognizable, so his next incarnation was created to be much more subtle and unassuming, one who could do what it needed to do without raising suspicion, and hence another hero to stop him. That's actually my fave. The other one that's equally simple, but not quite as interesting, and rather insulting to one's intelligence, is that the first seal wasn't perfect and so Ganon was able to escape whole. The Hero of Winds however strengthened the seal when he defeated Ganon at the end, turning the form in the light world to stone as he was forced into the dark world. Both are the simplest ones (more complicated ones are things like "well when the planets align, or on the second day of the second year of the second random event") I could come up with to explain it. I like the first one the most, as it explains the end rather well with the whole turning to stone thing, and also why he never really transforms into the full on horror we all know and love (the closest is that demon puppet, but that's not really him).
Oh yes, not to forget that in fact according to WW, that wasn't the first escape either, as Ganon actually broke free AGAIN shortly after OOT, but the Hero of Time apparently was nowhere to be found (for whatever reason, possibly because he was off in another land searching for navi, or maybe because he fell into darkness far away, in the land where the next Zelda will take place and the Hero of Winds must redeem the Hero of Time... wow that would be so cool...), so the Trinity flooded the lands. I suppose that either he was merely subdued and wasn't actually sent back to the golden, OR, that form he used to break out that first time was yet another shadow incarnation of himself, that one much more violent so the second time, the one you fight in WW, was just his mortal form as he figured the Trinity wouldn't bother if he wasn't going about an all out slaughter. (That is the sort of mindset he has about the 3 Goddesses, that they don't really care about the minority.)
One other thing, at first for the longest time there was only the 3 Goddesses of one mind. Then, in Wind Waker many other gods showed up. I think those are lesser gods, considering they are of things like wind that were actually CREATED by the Trinity. I believe they aren't really gods as such, but rather greater beings created by the Trinity to sort of help guide the world they created, sorta like the Valla in JRR Tolkein's work.
And yes, Wind Waker is tough, but it's absolutely confirmed by Miyamoto and most other elements in the plot that it IS within the timeline. So, as for that, the simplest explanation I can come up with is one of these two. The first is that the "ganon" you face in Wind Waker is actually just a shadow created by Ganon (just like Agahnim), which makes sense since when you "kill" him he turns to stone. He's perhaps much more directly controlled, and Ganon realized his flaw in making him so recognizable, so his next incarnation was created to be much more subtle and unassuming, one who could do what it needed to do without raising suspicion, and hence another hero to stop him. That's actually my fave. The other one that's equally simple, but not quite as interesting, and rather insulting to one's intelligence, is that the first seal wasn't perfect and so Ganon was able to escape whole. The Hero of Winds however strengthened the seal when he defeated Ganon at the end, turning the form in the light world to stone as he was forced into the dark world. Both are the simplest ones (more complicated ones are things like "well when the planets align, or on the second day of the second year of the second random event") I could come up with to explain it. I like the first one the most, as it explains the end rather well with the whole turning to stone thing, and also why he never really transforms into the full on horror we all know and love (the closest is that demon puppet, but that's not really him).
Oh yes, not to forget that in fact according to WW, that wasn't the first escape either, as Ganon actually broke free AGAIN shortly after OOT, but the Hero of Time apparently was nowhere to be found (for whatever reason, possibly because he was off in another land searching for navi, or maybe because he fell into darkness far away, in the land where the next Zelda will take place and the Hero of Winds must redeem the Hero of Time... wow that would be so cool...), so the Trinity flooded the lands. I suppose that either he was merely subdued and wasn't actually sent back to the golden, OR, that form he used to break out that first time was yet another shadow incarnation of himself, that one much more violent so the second time, the one you fight in WW, was just his mortal form as he figured the Trinity wouldn't bother if he wasn't going about an all out slaughter. (That is the sort of mindset he has about the 3 Goddesses, that they don't really care about the minority.)
One other thing, at first for the longest time there was only the 3 Goddesses of one mind. Then, in Wind Waker many other gods showed up. I think those are lesser gods, considering they are of things like wind that were actually CREATED by the Trinity. I believe they aren't really gods as such, but rather greater beings created by the Trinity to sort of help guide the world they created, sorta like the Valla in JRR Tolkein's work.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)