12th March 2006, 4:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 12th March 2006, 5:13 PM by A Black Falcon.)
I'd forgotten how annoying it is to talk to Sony fans...
Sim-racers okay, though the N64 has some solid ones too (some F1 games, MRC, etc), perhaps... but arcade racing? No way! And I don't find sim racers particularly fun, so... yeah, no contest at all. I've got 13 N64 racing games, and there are easily that many more again games that I could also get. PSX? It's got volume, but as usual, the quality is lower... does the PSX have anything to match Rush 2049 or F-Zero X? No? And what about Wipeout? The PSX may have 3 to the N64's 1, but the N64 one is the only one with a four player mode, and only Wipeout 3 also has analog controls (they make such a huge difference in these games...)... Not to mention Rush 2, the Cruis'n games, Beetle Adventure Racing, Extreme-G 1 and 2, etc. PSX? Um... Rollcage is good, though both games are also on PC and are as usual much improved on that platform (where I have Rollcage Stage II... great game...). :) Rush 1 for PSX is horrible. Same for Hydro Thunder; both games are great on N64. Other PSX arcade racers... what would you mention? Jet-Moto or something? Yeah right... :)
Fighting games? Yeah, Sony beats Nintendo, but the X-Box's linup is, I'd say, just as good as the PS2's. Lots of great stuff there...
Umm... perhaps because a real gamer can look beyond shallow judgements such as those and actually see a good game when they play one, perhaps?
... most obvious counter-argument ever...
I don't really like Pokemon, but once i played Tetris Attack and learned how great Panel de Pon is, I knew I was going to get Pokemon Puzzle League, and it was worth it, Pokemons or no... a good game is a good game.
Also, an unique or innovative game is still unique if it uses a preexisting universe of characters. Super Mario Kart is the perfect example of that, but I could also mention Yoshi Touch 'n Go, Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble, etc... Sony and MS simply do not take chances with game design like Nintendo does. Some other third parties do, so PS2 and Xbox get a few titles that are innovative in a Nintendo-like way (because admittedly Nintendo does not innovate in every way, but just in ones characteristic to the way they make games), but they aren't first party, and in many cases, particularly with Sony, convincing Sony to let you release your game in the the US might get very, very hard... just ask Working Designs about that one. Oh right, Sony of America killed them. Right. (not an exaggeration.)
Even given that fact, this is still quite simply not true. For instance... I have 45 N64 games and 39 GC games. Total number of Pokemon titles: 1, the aforementioned PPL. Total number of Mario titles: 3: Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, and Mario Sunshine. (okay, there are a few more if you count Yoshi's Story, SSB, SSB:M, and Pac-Man vs. (with Mario's voice...) (WarioWare is different... the Wario series isn't as closely connected to the main Mario one as the Yoshi games are, for instance.), but those are all completely different games that just happen to share some characters, so it wouldn't make a lot of sense to do that... (particularly for ones that don't have Mario in them at all like WarioWare, Wario World, or Yoshi's Story, and in SSB who you use is up to you...)
That is, there are numerous other titles out there if you look for them. Stop using silly excuses.
People who dislike PC games... so sad... :(
Quote:One game, Gran Turismo. It's THE racing game to beat. It's also home to some decent and respectable arcade racing titles.
I forgot about fighting games. Tekken and Soul Calibur are excellent games, and there are many other fighting games to appeal to anyone's taste. As I've said before, variety is key here.
Sim-racers okay, though the N64 has some solid ones too (some F1 games, MRC, etc), perhaps... but arcade racing? No way! And I don't find sim racers particularly fun, so... yeah, no contest at all. I've got 13 N64 racing games, and there are easily that many more again games that I could also get. PSX? It's got volume, but as usual, the quality is lower... does the PSX have anything to match Rush 2049 or F-Zero X? No? And what about Wipeout? The PSX may have 3 to the N64's 1, but the N64 one is the only one with a four player mode, and only Wipeout 3 also has analog controls (they make such a huge difference in these games...)... Not to mention Rush 2, the Cruis'n games, Beetle Adventure Racing, Extreme-G 1 and 2, etc. PSX? Um... Rollcage is good, though both games are also on PC and are as usual much improved on that platform (where I have Rollcage Stage II... great game...). :) Rush 1 for PSX is horrible. Same for Hydro Thunder; both games are great on N64. Other PSX arcade racers... what would you mention? Jet-Moto or something? Yeah right... :)
Fighting games? Yeah, Sony beats Nintendo, but the X-Box's linup is, I'd say, just as good as the PS2's. Lots of great stuff there...
Quote:Here's what I'm saying. If I don't like Mario or have never cared for Mario then why would I give Mario Strikers, Mario Tennis, Mario Party, etc. any consideration?
Variety of scale > variety then. What was it, 100+ PS2s to 20 million GCs?
Umm... perhaps because a real gamer can look beyond shallow judgements such as those and actually see a good game when they play one, perhaps?
... most obvious counter-argument ever...
I don't really like Pokemon, but once i played Tetris Attack and learned how great Panel de Pon is, I knew I was going to get Pokemon Puzzle League, and it was worth it, Pokemons or no... a good game is a good game.
Also, an unique or innovative game is still unique if it uses a preexisting universe of characters. Super Mario Kart is the perfect example of that, but I could also mention Yoshi Touch 'n Go, Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble, etc... Sony and MS simply do not take chances with game design like Nintendo does. Some other third parties do, so PS2 and Xbox get a few titles that are innovative in a Nintendo-like way (because admittedly Nintendo does not innovate in every way, but just in ones characteristic to the way they make games), but they aren't first party, and in many cases, particularly with Sony, convincing Sony to let you release your game in the the US might get very, very hard... just ask Working Designs about that one. Oh right, Sony of America killed them. Right. (not an exaggeration.)
Quote:I disagree. As I said before, if I don't like the Mario or Pokemon flavor then the lineup suddenly becomes less attractive.
Even given that fact, this is still quite simply not true. For instance... I have 45 N64 games and 39 GC games. Total number of Pokemon titles: 1, the aforementioned PPL. Total number of Mario titles: 3: Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, and Mario Sunshine. (okay, there are a few more if you count Yoshi's Story, SSB, SSB:M, and Pac-Man vs. (with Mario's voice...) (WarioWare is different... the Wario series isn't as closely connected to the main Mario one as the Yoshi games are, for instance.), but those are all completely different games that just happen to share some characters, so it wouldn't make a lot of sense to do that... (particularly for ones that don't have Mario in them at all like WarioWare, Wario World, or Yoshi's Story, and in SSB who you use is up to you...)
That is, there are numerous other titles out there if you look for them. Stop using silly excuses.
Quote:That may be but I really don't give a fuck. I don't like the idea of having to upgrade graphic cards, playing with a keyboard, mouse, having to check if my system has the required or recommended specs. It's just not for me.
People who dislike PC games... so sad... :(
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