Xbox 360 Launch: Success or Mess?

[A Black Falcon]

Conker falls in to the mature category due to its groteseque events and often crude language. After having played it, I can say it was a bit over the top and at times disgusting. Conker could have gotten by just fine without the suggestive language.

It was definitely over the top and sometimes disgusting, but that was the whole point, and censoring it isn't right...

They're only trying so much... they are releasing Rare's games, but the rest of the market they've built up around the Xbox isn't really conductive to selling Rare games, while Nintendo's is perfect, so they aren't really succeeding... and going by sales, it doesn't look like anything has changed on those regards this generation. In short, Rare was stupid to want to leave Nintendo, as bad as their relationship may have been.
They've released an okay game to an established mature crowd, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, a remake, Conker. Now Perfect Dark Zero and Kameo are new beginnings on a new console. This generation has just begun, give them some time to stretch their legs and breath. If you remember, Jak & Daxter or Ratchet & Clank were not overnight successes. In fact, Sony was a bit disappointed with Jak's initial sales but was confident that more people would catch on sooner or later. Here we are, some 2 sequels and a racer later and it's a smash success. I think you're making the call way too quickly.

Grabbed by the Ghoulies sold so badly that even Rare admits it'll never have a sequel... and Conker for Xbox didn't exactly burn up the charts either. As for the X360 games, it's probably too early to tell, but Kameo is selling okay but not great and PDZ is selling alright but getting criticized by the Halo fans for not being Halo...

Yes, I know, and I no longer care. However, I think they are starting to get back in the game. They have partnered with several developers in efforts to publish some great looking games. They also said they would start concentrating their efforts and do less porting in the future.

Stuff like Shadow the Hedgehog does not make me hopeful for Sega, unfortunately...

This is why I always say that nothing is guaranteed. People assume that Sony will continue to be king of the hill, or Microsoft won't ever appeal to anyone but Halo fans. I just say all we can do is wait and see, and try to point out obvious efforts.

It requires both failures from the market leader and effort from the competitors, though. I'm not sure if both of those factors will come together in the right way to upset Sony... it's possible, but Sony's done well its first two generations... we'll know better once we hear more about the PS3 and Revolution (since both Sony and Nintendo are being fairly secretive).

I know what you are saying but I still don't agree. It's not that I don't want Nintendo to be number one, or that I do (I honestly, sincerely don't care who is in what place), but I just don't see the console and handheld as the same device, and I won't compare them.

It makes no sense to say "LttP is a console game here and a handheld game here and the two games have absolutely nothing in common and are in completely different markets" when they are the same exact game...

As for the obvious question that raises 'well then what about PC gaming'... good question. That's the obvious other platform category... pc, handheld, and the tv consoles. It's just a smaller one than the others, and one more focused on specific kinds of games...

But anyway, game sales are game sales. Artificial borders like "that doesn't count because it's on handhelds!" are absurd.