Xbox 360 Launch: Success or Mess?

[A Black Falcon]

Some games don't ever achieve 73,000 units. Kameo did that in eight days, and to a very small user base. Give it some time before you call it a failure in any respect.

It is a failure compared to how it would sell on a Nintendo console. Say what you will about Microsoft's market, but for the most part it really is true that they just don't buy the same kinds of games as Nintendo's, and Rare makes Nintendo-style games. Kameo is comparitively going to fail despite of that... and Lazy is probably right about a new Banjo game. It'd do well on GC or Revolution, but not as much so on X360...

I'm not an Xbot. If I were I probably wouldn't have my Xbox back in the box, waiting on a price drop for the 360, playing Ratchet & Clank on my PS2, and had invited my friend over to play F-Zero GX and Mario Kart Double Dash, and begging him to let me borrow Metroid Prime 2. Or that I'm checking video game sites every week hoping to see something about a DS redesign because I really want one, but I don't think they're very comfortable as they are. You still have an entirely wrong idea about me. I can't figure out where you get the idea that I'm pro or anti [insert console here]. I want to see them all do well, but I'm going to criticize their moves just the same.

So am I not a Nintendo fan because two of the best games I've played in the last week are Shadow Dancer (Shinobi) on Genesis and Star Ocean: The Second Story on PSOne (as well as Metroid Prime)? No, I'm still a Nintendo fan... most people do have some core loyalty. Enjoying games on other consoles does mean that you might be a bit less of a diehard fan, but even so, I don't think it's wrong to say that people have a loyalty, even if they own/play other consoles too...

PS3 installed user base = 0
Revolution installed user base = 0
Get it?

Wow, now I know you're not reading my posts very carefully. I didn't say killer apps weren't necessary. I said precisely the opposite, however I don't think they are absolutely necessary right in the beginning.

Okay, you're going to have to fill me in as to what Japanese made games made the Playstation and Playstation 2 float along without their killer apps. I don't recall any standout games whatsoever, but it seems you're putting alot of stock in them. Care to share what you're thinking?

Neither the PSX or PS2 had great launch lineups... actually I think both were pretty bad. PSX did well at first anyway, because people were attracted to terrible junk like Battle Arena Toshinden, but it didn't truly take off until Square gave its support... PS2 was different, though. It won easily, even with a poor lineup... the PlayStation name won the day before the fight even started, even though it didn't really have good games for a while... Sony is banking on that happening again. We'll see... it's probably too soon to determine that yet. It's certainly possible, but not a certainty yet...

It's a FPS, and hardly a simulator.

Yes, here you are definitely correct.

Did you read what I quoted, or venture into the link? The source says that Xbox has more market share, and the numbers support that. Deal with it.

Nintendo would say that they're in second, probably because of the GB and DS, and I'd agree with that... it's not Nintendo's fault that MS doesn't compete in the handheld arena, anyway. Nintendo just gets to exploit that fact. :)