28th December 2005, 11:03 AM
And yeah LL, the story of Lucifer is one of my favorites. I remember studying it and realizing that there's nothing evil about him at all. He loved God so much, and wanted to be God's favorite and most loved angel, that he started an 'anti-human club' to get God's attention, his club grew in numbers and soon Heaven was split down the middle with anti-human supporters on one side and monkey lovers on the other. The war started and many angels were killed and Lucifer got this idea of forcing God to love him, God sent Michael and good ol' Michael threw Lucifer out of heaven and told him that now God has no love for you.
Which is what the underworld is. I mean if you strip away the BS that was added later about 'Hell' (Named after Hellen) and all the weird ideas of it; by sinning against God your immortal soul is placed in the underworld and never allowed to enter heaven, instead you 'live' in the underworld without God's love. or another way of saying it is 'live forever in your guilt'. Lucifer now is trying to collect these people who hate God for his ideals and will eventually amass a new army to try and overthrow God and force God to love him more than man kind.
I love the weird ideas about how hell is a place where you're whipped by chains or forced to do horrible things in a fiery torture chamber when in reality it's just the ideal of disobeying God and not living through him. The weird ideals probably came from people mixing greek mythos with hewbrew writings and turning Lucifer in to a kind of Hades who was transformed by Zeus in to a monster who rules the place of the dead (there's no heaven or hell in greek mythos) which is described as this haunting place where the dead are collected (basically what we consider to be limbo) and i'm totally ranting right now. :D
Which is what the underworld is. I mean if you strip away the BS that was added later about 'Hell' (Named after Hellen) and all the weird ideas of it; by sinning against God your immortal soul is placed in the underworld and never allowed to enter heaven, instead you 'live' in the underworld without God's love. or another way of saying it is 'live forever in your guilt'. Lucifer now is trying to collect these people who hate God for his ideals and will eventually amass a new army to try and overthrow God and force God to love him more than man kind.
I love the weird ideas about how hell is a place where you're whipped by chains or forced to do horrible things in a fiery torture chamber when in reality it's just the ideal of disobeying God and not living through him. The weird ideals probably came from people mixing greek mythos with hewbrew writings and turning Lucifer in to a kind of Hades who was transformed by Zeus in to a monster who rules the place of the dead (there's no heaven or hell in greek mythos) which is described as this haunting place where the dead are collected (basically what we consider to be limbo) and i'm totally ranting right now. :D