13th December 2005, 4:31 PM
You are so wrong on so many different issues, it's sad.
Moses tells us that God said: "For behold, this is my work and my glory--to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man." Sounds like he wants what's in our best interest.
Adam and Eve were cast out of the Garden of Eden because they had partaken of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and had become able to sin...if they'd been allowed to stay and had partaken of the Tree of Life, they would have lived forever in their sin, and Christ would have have been able to redeem them by his resurrection/atonement.
Where exactly are you quoting from? We've been commanded to "Love thy neighbor as thyself." Christ also taught that we should lose ourselves in service to others, that "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these, my bretheren, ye have done it unto me."
I agree. It is better than one man should perish, than that an entire nation should dwindle in unbelief.
Again, where are you quoting? We're repeatedly told to "Ask and ye shall receive, Knock, and it shall be given you."
I want a reference. The law of Moses required the sacrifice of firstlings of the flock.
Why was Christ sent to redeem mankind? Why would Moses have been able to part the Red Sea, or been fed by mana? Why would Noah have been commanded to build a boat? If God wasn't trying to watch out for the righteous?
Wrong. God's sole purpose is to help us gain eternal life. Satan is evil. If you sincerely believe this, Satan has a greater hold upon your heart than I thought.
God does allow us our agency to choose.
God didn't force Noah to do anything, he simply warned him that the Earth had become so wicked, that he was going to baptise it with water and that if he would build a boat, God would protect he and his family. He commanded him to build a boat out of LOVE...Noah could have refused.
Again, you show your lack of understanding of the scriptures. The people of Israel were being led out of captivity. God allowed Moses to part the Red Sea so they wouldn't be killed by the Egyptians. God fed the people with Mana so they wouldn't starve. God loved these people. It was because of their wickedness in making and worshiping the idols of the golden calves while Moses was receiving the Ten Commandments that God made them wander for 40 years. It was so that the entire generation would pass away before they entered the promise land.
Why are we told that "the worth of souls is great in the sight of God"?
Lazy, you really should try reading the scriptures before you try to tell people what they say, and to try to comprehend what God thinks.... Isaiah 55 tells us: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
God LOVES each and every one of us. He knows our names. He wouldn't have sent his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, to redeem us if he didn't love us.
-TheBiggah-
lazyfatbum Wrote:Never did God say that he is 'good', he never made a claim that 'I will do good things for you'.
Moses tells us that God said: "For behold, this is my work and my glory--to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man." Sounds like he wants what's in our best interest.
Quote:What God did say is that he gave the first human beings a paradise and took it away from them because they looked for knowledge.
Adam and Eve were cast out of the Garden of Eden because they had partaken of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and had become able to sin...if they'd been allowed to stay and had partaken of the Tree of Life, they would have lived forever in their sin, and Christ would have have been able to redeem them by his resurrection/atonement.
Quote:That the people who take care of themselves will lead the better life,
Where exactly are you quoting from? We've been commanded to "Love thy neighbor as thyself." Christ also taught that we should lose ourselves in service to others, that "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these, my bretheren, ye have done it unto me."
Quote:that the good of the many out weigh the good of the few,
I agree. It is better than one man should perish, than that an entire nation should dwindle in unbelief.
Quote:that to ask God for favors is wrong, that to look to God for answers is wrong.
Again, where are you quoting? We're repeatedly told to "Ask and ye shall receive, Knock, and it shall be given you."
Quote:In the old testament God even tells people that even ancient tradition should be questioned; "You do not have to sacrifice for me - I never asked for such things."
I want a reference. The law of Moses required the sacrifice of firstlings of the flock.
Quote:To think that God will do good things for you (for whatever reason you attach to it) is wrong and goes against the teachings of the bible and trhe very word of God.
Why was Christ sent to redeem mankind? Why would Moses have been able to part the Red Sea, or been fed by mana? Why would Noah have been commanded to build a boat? If God wasn't trying to watch out for the righteous?
Quote:God is not 'good', he is not 'evil' he simply is.
Wrong. God's sole purpose is to help us gain eternal life. Satan is evil. If you sincerely believe this, Satan has a greater hold upon your heart than I thought.
Quote: The only person to decide that you will have a good experience or bad one is you.
God does allow us our agency to choose.
Quote:Noah certainly didn't think that God was doing good things when he forced him to build a boat and carry his family and his farm animals during a great flood that will wipe out everything he knew and loved.
God didn't force Noah to do anything, he simply warned him that the Earth had become so wicked, that he was going to baptise it with water and that if he would build a boat, God would protect he and his family. He commanded him to build a boat out of LOVE...Noah could have refused.
Quote:Moses definitely didn't think of God being 'good' when he said he must return to Egypt and murder his family that raised him so tht he can free a bunch of slaves and then live for 40 years with no country or place to call home.
Again, you show your lack of understanding of the scriptures. The people of Israel were being led out of captivity. God allowed Moses to part the Red Sea so they wouldn't be killed by the Egyptians. God fed the people with Mana so they wouldn't starve. God loved these people. It was because of their wickedness in making and worshiping the idols of the golden calves while Moses was receiving the Ten Commandments that God made them wander for 40 years. It was so that the entire generation would pass away before they entered the promise land.
Quote: God only thinks of the ultimate outcome of all life, not the individuals wants or desires such as hoping that 'good' things happen to you.
Why are we told that "the worth of souls is great in the sight of God"?
Lazy, you really should try reading the scriptures before you try to tell people what they say, and to try to comprehend what God thinks.... Isaiah 55 tells us: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
God LOVES each and every one of us. He knows our names. He wouldn't have sent his only begotten son, Jesus Christ, to redeem us if he didn't love us.
-TheBiggah-
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