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    13th December 2005, 9:56 AM
    This is the problem with religion and the retardation of ideals over time.

    Never did God say that he is 'good', he never made a claim that 'I will do good things for you'. What God did say is that he gave the first human beings a paradise and took it away from them because they looked for knowledge. That the people who take care of themselves will lead the better life, that the good of the many out weigh the good of the few, that to ask God for favors is wrong, that to look to God for answers is wrong.

    The new testament and catholic ideals create a lifestyle that is very akin to that of the people and cities that were punished. Worshipping statues and idols, proclaiming more than one God etc. In the old testament God even tells people that even ancient tradition should be questioned; "You do not have to sacrifice for me - I never asked for such things."

    To think that God will make your car run better or keep it from breaking down goes against everything taught in the bible (his own teachings as well). To think that God will do good things for you (for whatever reason you attach to it) is wrong and goes against the teachings of the bible and trhe very word of God. God is not 'good', he is not 'evil' he simply is. The only person to decide that you will have a good experience or bad one is you. It's your fault for being arrogant about the workings of a machine and placing hope in a mechanical device without learning how the device works.

    It is a finite operation that can be taught and built upon to the point that you know everything about cars and even make your own. It is a human creation, like society, that does not concern God. he cares about the bottom line, not the individual.

    Noah certainly didn't think that God was doing good things when he forced him to build a boat and carry his family and his farm animals during a great flood that will wipe out everything he knew and loved. Moses definitely didn't think of God being 'good' when he said he must return to Egypt and murder his family that raised him so tht he can free a bunch of slaves and then live for 40 years with no country or place to call home. God only thinks of the ultimate outcome of all life, not the individuals wants or desires such as hoping that 'good' things happen to you.
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    an actual debate in the debate forum - by lazyfatbum - 26th November 2005, 12:12 PM
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