7th December 2005, 6:11 PM
I cross refferenced the material that I posted here and it all came up roses. Wikipedia is nothing more than a public forum for a collection of knowledge, thy have people who check every new submission for facts, it just takes time to check everything.
DJ/ *black persona* HELL'S NO I AINT STARTIN ANOTHER DEBATE I GOTS NO PATIENCE FOR DIS SHIT NIGGA BETTA RECOGNIZE though I will add a comment:
It is a conscious effort to not die, if the environment changes, the animal will try to survive. if it able to reproduce and sustain life after consciously changing its habits and patterns to accomadate the new surroundings, the active process of evolution will alter genetic material to make that animal's life easier in the new surroundings. But without the conscious effort to try to coexist with the changing environment and make new desicions and lifestyle changes, the animal will simply die out.
You forgot one important step. They aqcuire knowledge of the surroundings and build a pattern of lifestyle that best fits for the most comfortable existence possible. They then share that knowledge with offspring, how and what to hunt, where the best water sources are, etc. So the correct phrase should be "They just aqcuire knowledge reproduce and die." And by that very nature alone are constantly thinking "I better make sure I dont die" Therfore in abstract the nature of the brain is constantly thinking "I better evolve and SOON" if, and only if, the animal is facing a threat to its existence. if the animal is not faster than its prey, it will become more rugged and gain better defenses because of trying new ways to survive against the threat to which the prey will gain better ways ways to penetrate those defenses by thinking of new ways to take the prey down and so and so on.
you're right, it's completely random and has no structure. Oh, woops, it does. And it's documented. And the only reason it's still called a theory is because of over zealous religious fanatics who insist that we sprung from the ground by a command from God. Which is only half true. Every living thing is aware of evolution because evolution is change.
Let's assume that magnon and erectus first reached their levels of notable structure in africa (though this model is not consistent with other findings, it makes the same point):
Tropical climate: no protection from ultra violet rays cause skin pigments to engorge and over time become permanent. The reasoning behind such a change is that because of the body's natural ability to manufacture chemicals and vitamins through sunlight, if these chemicals and vitamins are in over abundance the person becomes sick. Hiding from the sun was not a realistic option so the pigmentation reaches a point of becoming as dark as possible to protect the animal from dangerous cancers and sickness. The over abundance of food means that the animal is comfortably sustained with little to no fat reserves. Most food intake is burned directly to keep the body functioning in the high heat and active lifestyle.
Ice Age(s): Very little to no sunlight, severe lack of food and nutrition for comfortable sustained life and a climate of constant freezing winds reverts the pigmentation to the complete lack of pigmentation to allow any sunlight in to the skin to create chemicals and vitamins the body needs. Lack of foodstuffs (vegetable or otherwise) create a method of storing energy in fat so that the body can sustain itself for long periods of time between meals. When food was available, the animals would eat till bursting, and their genetics would turn as much of the energies possible in to fat for survival. One key note of interest here is that the blinding winds and our severely unprotected eyes would over time gain an extra flap of skin filled with fluid as a built-in way of protecting the eyes against freezing cold and icy winds. This outcome is also recognized in desert regions.
After Ice Age(s), the human animal has spread through the world. Pigmentation has become a very dynamic structure creating an infinite spectrum of light to dark and even getting to the point of dynamic enough to change within the period of a few hours depending on the severity of the sun's light. The Ice Age veterans would have found life alot easier without the blistering cold and freezing winds so over time the extra flap in the eyes would concede to allow for maximum amounts of light to enter the eyes during night hunting or to be keen and aware of nocturnal predators (which, during the ice ages, were not a threat as they did not exist in any great numbers).
For the people who did not leave or press on (the hunter/gatherer would have to keep traveling in nomadian herds to follow food sources while others would change their habits and find food sources in new ways and stay behind) the evolutionary bi-products would stay with them longer as needed. The darker skin, the half opened eye, the the dynamic skin pigmentation, the storage of fat as per the requirements of the genetics (to be stored or burned) are all witnessed today in a huge melting pot since after all, we're only talking about (at the most) a million years ago which as far as Earth is concerned is last week.
so in tropical climates, the black will stay black, the white will stay tanned. In climates of high winds be it desert sands or ice, the eyes will stay half opened. In fact, it has been documented that Japanese people over the past few hundred years can look back on paintings or photographs and see that the eyes are widening. Just as Europeans and other other ice age vets can see an increase in height (which has about a million theories to why it's existing, but it all falls in to the 'spreading theory' where in an animal with no predator will simply continue to grow and become stronger since it has no generalized direction to follow) and other documentation such as the average Korean man being darker skinned than a Japanese man, the Korean lives in a more tropical setting while the Japanese opted for a colder island, the effect is subtle but speaks volumes of the environment to evolution paradigm and can be witnessed from the last 10,000 years.
Again, the factual information is out there. Go find it.
DJ/ *black persona* HELL'S NO I AINT STARTIN ANOTHER DEBATE I GOTS NO PATIENCE FOR DIS SHIT NIGGA BETTA RECOGNIZE though I will add a comment:
Quote:What makes you think evolution is an ACTIVE process, something that creatures actually DO?
It is a conscious effort to not die, if the environment changes, the animal will try to survive. if it able to reproduce and sustain life after consciously changing its habits and patterns to accomadate the new surroundings, the active process of evolution will alter genetic material to make that animal's life easier in the new surroundings. But without the conscious effort to try to coexist with the changing environment and make new desicions and lifestyle changes, the animal will simply die out.
Quote:Creatures don't think "I'd better evolve and SOON!" they just reproduce and die.
You forgot one important step. They aqcuire knowledge of the surroundings and build a pattern of lifestyle that best fits for the most comfortable existence possible. They then share that knowledge with offspring, how and what to hunt, where the best water sources are, etc. So the correct phrase should be "They just aqcuire knowledge reproduce and die." And by that very nature alone are constantly thinking "I better make sure I dont die" Therfore in abstract the nature of the brain is constantly thinking "I better evolve and SOON" if, and only if, the animal is facing a threat to its existence. if the animal is not faster than its prey, it will become more rugged and gain better defenses because of trying new ways to survive against the threat to which the prey will gain better ways ways to penetrate those defenses by thinking of new ways to take the prey down and so and so on.
Quote:Evolution is just a phrase used to describe why some creatures die and others continue to live and how, over millions of years, a single random mutation might actually be beneficial to life instead of detrimental or neutral. No creature is ever aware of evolution "occuring", because that's not a proper model of how it operates.
you're right, it's completely random and has no structure. Oh, woops, it does. And it's documented. And the only reason it's still called a theory is because of over zealous religious fanatics who insist that we sprung from the ground by a command from God. Which is only half true. Every living thing is aware of evolution because evolution is change.
Let's assume that magnon and erectus first reached their levels of notable structure in africa (though this model is not consistent with other findings, it makes the same point):
Tropical climate: no protection from ultra violet rays cause skin pigments to engorge and over time become permanent. The reasoning behind such a change is that because of the body's natural ability to manufacture chemicals and vitamins through sunlight, if these chemicals and vitamins are in over abundance the person becomes sick. Hiding from the sun was not a realistic option so the pigmentation reaches a point of becoming as dark as possible to protect the animal from dangerous cancers and sickness. The over abundance of food means that the animal is comfortably sustained with little to no fat reserves. Most food intake is burned directly to keep the body functioning in the high heat and active lifestyle.
Ice Age(s): Very little to no sunlight, severe lack of food and nutrition for comfortable sustained life and a climate of constant freezing winds reverts the pigmentation to the complete lack of pigmentation to allow any sunlight in to the skin to create chemicals and vitamins the body needs. Lack of foodstuffs (vegetable or otherwise) create a method of storing energy in fat so that the body can sustain itself for long periods of time between meals. When food was available, the animals would eat till bursting, and their genetics would turn as much of the energies possible in to fat for survival. One key note of interest here is that the blinding winds and our severely unprotected eyes would over time gain an extra flap of skin filled with fluid as a built-in way of protecting the eyes against freezing cold and icy winds. This outcome is also recognized in desert regions.
After Ice Age(s), the human animal has spread through the world. Pigmentation has become a very dynamic structure creating an infinite spectrum of light to dark and even getting to the point of dynamic enough to change within the period of a few hours depending on the severity of the sun's light. The Ice Age veterans would have found life alot easier without the blistering cold and freezing winds so over time the extra flap in the eyes would concede to allow for maximum amounts of light to enter the eyes during night hunting or to be keen and aware of nocturnal predators (which, during the ice ages, were not a threat as they did not exist in any great numbers).
For the people who did not leave or press on (the hunter/gatherer would have to keep traveling in nomadian herds to follow food sources while others would change their habits and find food sources in new ways and stay behind) the evolutionary bi-products would stay with them longer as needed. The darker skin, the half opened eye, the the dynamic skin pigmentation, the storage of fat as per the requirements of the genetics (to be stored or burned) are all witnessed today in a huge melting pot since after all, we're only talking about (at the most) a million years ago which as far as Earth is concerned is last week.
so in tropical climates, the black will stay black, the white will stay tanned. In climates of high winds be it desert sands or ice, the eyes will stay half opened. In fact, it has been documented that Japanese people over the past few hundred years can look back on paintings or photographs and see that the eyes are widening. Just as Europeans and other other ice age vets can see an increase in height (which has about a million theories to why it's existing, but it all falls in to the 'spreading theory' where in an animal with no predator will simply continue to grow and become stronger since it has no generalized direction to follow) and other documentation such as the average Korean man being darker skinned than a Japanese man, the Korean lives in a more tropical setting while the Japanese opted for a colder island, the effect is subtle but speaks volumes of the environment to evolution paradigm and can be witnessed from the last 10,000 years.
Again, the factual information is out there. Go find it.