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Yes it does. J&D looks bad compared to most of the PS2 games that came out at the time, let alone Mario Sunshine.

Woah, man! The colors! Did you just see that!? *puff*

Hey it's not Nintendo's fault that everyone copied Mario 64 and refused to innovate.

Though, it is Nintendo's fault that they refused to innovate, while many of their contemporaries were at least trying to to.

Yes it is! It doesn't matter if your game runs at even 60 billion pps; if the textures are ugly than the game looks ugly! Textures are more important than poly count. Take Doom 3 for instance. The game pushes far less ploygons per second than Rogue Leader, but it's textures and lighting are so fanastic that you can't even tell.

Textures are very important, but there are many other factors. One example where polygons makes up for lack of textures that I can think of would be the early PS2 "Old man" tech demo", when compared to the Passport Shenmue "Old man" (which, for all intents and purposes was a tech demo). While Shenmue's face lacked a lot of polygons, it made up for it with great textures. And while Sony's face lacked textures, it made up for it with a LOT of polygons.

Oh, and the reason Doom 3 looks good, despite pushing a minimal amount of polygons is the massive use of bump/poly mapping.... WHICH GIVES THE ILLUSION OF MORE POLYGONS :p

But yes, textures are more important than pollies. Particularly when combined with great effects. But they aren't the be all, end all determining factor in how good a game looks.,

But once again, the quality of the textures isn't the best thing about J&D. The size of the qorld is truely gorgeous. My jaw just dropped everytime I ran out onto an area overlooking the rest of world. And coupled with the GORGEOUS animations, and a silky smooth 60fps (compared to Marios 30fps), it's easily better than Mario. :)

I'm sorry, but texture quality is not subjective. The textures are very poor. Of course, if you're comparing the game to say, Bubsy 3D then of course the textures look great. But they were supposed to compare the textures to the best-looking PS2 games at the time: ICO, MGS2, Devil May Cry, GT3, etc. Jak and Daxter's texture quality does not hold up to those games'.

Of course not. And it also doesn't live up to the texture quality present in Tekken Tag. In fact, NONE OF THOSE GAMES DO! OMG! TEKKEN TAG IS THE BEST LOOKING GAME ON PS2!!!!!! Fancy that, perhaps the SIZE of the ENVIRONMENTS has something to do with the quality of textures!? NO WAY!!!

Nobody is more annoying than Daxter.

FLUDD is far more annoying :p

Um... did you play Mario Sunshine? The water pack was kind of the whole point of the game. You could hover, you could run on water, you could rocket yourself a hundred feet in the air, you could do these cool flips on wires...

I believe he meant the fact that the water pack could speak. :)