3rd December 2005, 12:51 PM
hahaha I think someone needs to re-learn some biology and understandings of nature. GO GO HYPER SARCASM MODE You also completey neggated alot of things you said yourself by throwing out the rediculous comment of 'moving = brain' as if a brain can only exist in one instance :D in your description all things in motion have a brain which means that everything with any self-powered movement is an intelligence such as what you say is not: white blood cells, unicell organisms, multicell organisms etc who all have self-powered mobility. And yet after stating that these organisms have no intelligence or consciousness you tell me they do, because they dont. Good job. :D
And oh yes, order does not exist at all. There is no chain, or system of chains clearly defined by the animal's role in nature. For example, deer are not below or above wolves, just because the deer exist as a food source and the wolves exist to control that food source does not equal any greater plan of action such as a food chain and therfore no 'order' is set it is simply randomness and chaos.
Boy I feel dumb for trying to philosophize on existence as awareness of the self when in reality to exist you only need to move. I mean, scientists and smart people say that moving is only a tiny part of the grande scheme and is usually not a good base to judge the qualification of life though it is the easiest to witness.
life--
1.) The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism. From Wikipedia:
In biology, a lifeform has traditionally been considered to be a member of a population whose members can exhibit all the following phenomena at least once during their existence:
1. Growth, full development, maturity
2. Metabolism, consuming, transforming and storing energy/mass; growing by absorbing and reorganizing mass; excreting waste
3. Motion, either moving itself, or having internal motion
4. Reproduction, the ability to create entities that are similar to, yet separate from, itself or consisting solely of entities that exhibit the quality of reproduction.
5. Response to stimuli - the ability to measure properties of its surrounding environment, and act upon certain conditions. This property is also called homeostasis.
you're right! a star does all of those things! I guess stars are alive! Oh wait, they dont move.... Oh, and stars dont do any of these things and they are balls of gas.... so I guess you'd either have to change all the working theories or create new fact in order to think of stars as alive but no matter, yes they are applied to existence through physics... oh wait, everything in this plane of existence is applied to physics! therfore anything that works through physics is alive except for stars and things that cant move. Gotcha!
dj go soke ur hed, that last post of yours was like watching a car accident in slow motion. The next time you think that living things do not will to live and simply manifest at a point of existence take any living thing and damage it, watch what it does. Why is it doing that? Hey, its upset that its being hurt, its upset that it might die... why is that? ...maybe because i'm keeping it from moving and if it stops moving it dies... oh but that proves that the will to live in a living thing is present as well. I guess we'll never know. :(
*God points to a massive collection of knowledge in the form of books and documents with factual data while holing a sign that says DJ = car wreck in slow motion*
And oh yes, order does not exist at all. There is no chain, or system of chains clearly defined by the animal's role in nature. For example, deer are not below or above wolves, just because the deer exist as a food source and the wolves exist to control that food source does not equal any greater plan of action such as a food chain and therfore no 'order' is set it is simply randomness and chaos.
Boy I feel dumb for trying to philosophize on existence as awareness of the self when in reality to exist you only need to move. I mean, scientists and smart people say that moving is only a tiny part of the grande scheme and is usually not a good base to judge the qualification of life though it is the easiest to witness.
life--
1.) The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism. From Wikipedia:
In biology, a lifeform has traditionally been considered to be a member of a population whose members can exhibit all the following phenomena at least once during their existence:
1. Growth, full development, maturity
2. Metabolism, consuming, transforming and storing energy/mass; growing by absorbing and reorganizing mass; excreting waste
3. Motion, either moving itself, or having internal motion
4. Reproduction, the ability to create entities that are similar to, yet separate from, itself or consisting solely of entities that exhibit the quality of reproduction.
5. Response to stimuli - the ability to measure properties of its surrounding environment, and act upon certain conditions. This property is also called homeostasis.
you're right! a star does all of those things! I guess stars are alive! Oh wait, they dont move.... Oh, and stars dont do any of these things and they are balls of gas.... so I guess you'd either have to change all the working theories or create new fact in order to think of stars as alive but no matter, yes they are applied to existence through physics... oh wait, everything in this plane of existence is applied to physics! therfore anything that works through physics is alive except for stars and things that cant move. Gotcha!
dj go soke ur hed, that last post of yours was like watching a car accident in slow motion. The next time you think that living things do not will to live and simply manifest at a point of existence take any living thing and damage it, watch what it does. Why is it doing that? Hey, its upset that its being hurt, its upset that it might die... why is that? ...maybe because i'm keeping it from moving and if it stops moving it dies... oh but that proves that the will to live in a living thing is present as well. I guess we'll never know. :(
*God points to a massive collection of knowledge in the form of books and documents with factual data while holing a sign that says DJ = car wreck in slow motion*