27th November 2005, 1:59 PM
lazyfatbum Wrote:well, people believe whatever they want. Unfortunately what the church teaches and what actually happened are two totally different stories.
Why are you assuming that I'm part of a church that teaches whatever benefits that church politically?
Quote:The entire section of how the romans captured and killed jesus was re-written by the catholics
I concur that there are many different versions of the bible, each translation claiming to be the most accurate. The Bible is not the only scripture man has available to him.
Quote:But whatever, believe what you want to believe. History tells us Jesus was an upstart thorn in the roman's foot who tried to get people to stand up for themselves and find God on their own without the idea of 'Religion'
Why would He have called Apostles to preach the Gospel and to strengthen the church after he died? Have you even read the New Testament? All of the epistles were written by apostles to the saints in various parts of the old world...sounds like a church to me.
Quote:and your idea of Jesus turns fish in to bread or wine in to gold or whatever it is the catholics wrote. But this is all besides the point.
You're a little disjointed here. Are you implying that simple miracles like feeding 5,000 people were made up by evil men, but the fact that Christ gave his life, then took it back up is true? It would seem to me that since he was able to master death, he certainly could have calmed the raging seas, healed the sick, and fed the multitudes. Either he was the Son of God or he wasn't. You can't believe that Christ could be resurrected and yet not turn water into wine, can you?
Quote:The shroud of turin is a blanket that was used to cover the body of Jesus when he was taken down from the cross. This blanket was for many people a proof that he existed
So what? Why focus on an emblem of His death when He lives to this day?
Quote: but history tells us he existed he had a family even brothers and sisters and he was crusified along with thousands of other people (as crusifiction is the roman's choice of torture, why people want to wear a torture device is beyond me - it would be no different to wear an electric chair pendent).
Again, why focus on an emblem of His death, when He lives to this day? Not everybody who believes in Christ wears or even focuses on a cross. The miracle was not that he was crucified, but that He lives!
Quote:This blanket has been around for hundreds of years in recorded history, in fact 'shrouds' that depict the image of fallen heroes and religious icons have been around for thousands of years. It's a big deal.
No, it's not really a big deal. It doesn't have anything to do with my eternal salvation. Nowhere in the Gospel of Jesus Christ does it say anything about reverencing (or worshiping) a piece of cloth. It's all about loving God and serving others.
Quote:There you have it, an object that has impacted the lives of billions over a period of hundreds of years a complete fraud, people have been worshipping the image of an atheist scientist.
Anyone who would worship an object as opposed to the True and Living God, is not someone I choose to follow, regardless of how many "billions" of people there are. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"
If a thing is wrong, it doesn't matter how many people are doing it. I try each and every day to follow God's commandments, these and all others which God has revealed, does reveal, and will yet reveal to His children here on earth.
-TheBiggah-
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