This is sooo gay

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Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Yeah... though being Jewish is somewhat inherited too -- remember it started out as one nation. The only problem? What we both know: they will never accept that gays and lesbians should be compared to black people...

You're right, we won't, because you can't choose what skin color or nationality you're born with. You can and do choose your sexuality. And I don't think anyone deserves any special rights because they

And whether you actively persecute homosexuals isn't the point... saying things like you and N_A did is MORE than enough...

Saying that they should keep it hidden just to make you feel better is the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time... it, as big guy said, is exactly like how in the '60s lots of white people didn't want black people around because they "disgusted them to the core of their being". No difference I can see.

There is a difference, and I must restate it because you keep overlooking it: Being black is not something a person can choose, unless they love bleach baths. Racial discrimination is rotten because being born a certain color is 100% unavoidable. Being gay is a choice, it's a preference, as you all have offered exactly zero proof to the contrary. THAT'S where the difference lies. All that I said is that I don't want homosexuality to become socially acceptable because it's a disgusting act. I wouldn't want that just as I would not want incest legal and popular. It's sick. It's morally reprehensible. However, at least homosexuality, which is legal, I don't care about if it's kept private. And yes, they should keep it hidden. NO ONE should make their sexual life public. As I said, those that do only do so because they want the attention. And sometimes they get the wrong kind of attention, but you take the bad with the good. It's not a matter of hatred, and I don't hate gay people, in fact I've been friends with a few, and have worked for some, and they have all been decent people (except one, but that's a totally different story.) The thing is, I had no problem with it: They didn't tell people about what they did. Word gets around of course, which is how people find out, but these people I knew did not make an issue out of it, and so long as that happens, they are a-ok with me. If I boasted to them about my heterosexuality I'm sure they'd feel animosity towards me too. It's the ACT, and more prominently, the increasingly acceptable opinion of some people about that act.

And ABF, of all people, you have no right telling anyone to stop indoctrinating, you're more guilty of that than anyone.

Whoa, that sounds a little paranoid. What makes you think that homosexuals are evil virii set out to make everyone like them ( especially if they enjoy being different, as you've implied)? Homosexuality may disgust you, but is anyone forcing you to watch brown eye between two guys? And socially, what's so disturbing about seeing gender-atypical people?

Nobody's forcing me to watch it, but I am being forced, by you, to accept that act as morally correct. You tell me I'm supposed to allow them special rights because they do this. You tell me I'm supposed to think that they had no choice (a common liberal quip, liberals also think looters, robbers, murderers and rapists cannot control their actions either). There's no reason I should accept homosexuality as normal, or allow it to be as legitimate as heterosexuality. But that does not mean I can't respect gay people for being people. That I do. If they keep their sex lives private like all people should, then there would be no problems.

You're forgetting the golden rule for lesbians (as it's obvious that a major woman's role in our society is to be sexy and stimulate the men): if the lesbians are dykey, or fat, or ugly, or unattractive in any way, then it fades back into being uncool. But hey, if they're lipstick lesbians, it turns otherwise homophones on, so they can accept the homosexual women.

It's such a ridiculous double-standard... anyone who openly expresses such a mentality shouldn't expect to be respected...

There's a slight difference, you see. Lipstick lesbians are putting on a show. They're no more gay than the actors on Six Feet Under. But you know, it's only natural that homosexual acts by the opposite sex are more accepted... guys like seeing two naked women doing it, because it means that they can jack off to porn that has no men in it. The main difference is that these fake lesbians aren't pushing an agenda, they're just making a paycheck. Anyway, I don't see what validity that has to do with anything.

Oh, and how can you say that it is alright for people to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their apartments just because of how much you hate their homosexuality... its not OK to do that to people because of religion, gender, age, or those things anymore... why should it be for this? There is no difference...

...Except that homosexuality is a choice. I honestly don't think homosexuality should be a reason to fire or evict someone. I don't think ANY reason should apply unless stated rules are being broken, not just for being gay, but for any reason. The difference lies in that your race, gender and age are not choices (which is the inevitable truth that ruins your arguments), and therefore sexual deviance does not deserve a special protection. However, what I don't want to see is gays being awarded a higher status, one that would benefit from affirmative action and hiring quotas. And that's what the gay culture wants, to be rewarded financially for choosing to be gay. And that's simply ridiculous.