2nd October 2005, 7:48 AM
But all the atheism and secularism aside.
The arguement here is weither Inteligent design is valid enough in its methods to be taught in a biology class room not be viewed as "pseudo", Scientist have always said you follow the scientific method have a hypothesis (educated guess) then do the experiment give us some evidence and results to support your claims for us to look at and we may "concider it a valid alternate theory to the official one" so far they only response is either "faith" or that scientific community is in a conspiracy out to get them, So far they have said the ID community has not gotten past the "hypothesis" stage has not shown anything valid enough to be accepted most especially to be placed in a biology class before it gets the stamp of aproval.
The problem with some of the ID that I see is that many of them have flawed assumptions about science to begin with, Many are opposed to "evolution" existence all together trying to call a "darwin" cult. Unfortunately to many of the ID are of that very fundiementalist bible literalist thumber class their response to the scientific community criticism is that they are of that "darwin cult class". ID is extremely politicaly motivated and not scientific.
The problem with ID its made to be a "opposition to evolution all together" not a even concidering the possibility that evolution is as factual as the theory gravity and atomic theory disregarded alot of the obvious, Given the absolutely staggering amount of fossil evidence starting from the cambrian period where most fish had no jaws no teeth some where either completely blind or had limited visual abilities, There still is a few surviving jawed prehistoric blind fish but it seems the new more advance class of fish have out done them the blinders no longer hold majority in the sea and are close to extinction.
My father excepts evolution and God at the same time, I used to as well, My vastly deeper knowledge in science and evolution thanks to speaking with some actual professional biologist on the infidelguy forums .But its not what made me suddeny doubt the judeo christian god,As you can always say what if he guided evolution? Or he had taken his sweet old time?
If you can believe in evolution and god at the same time why then is "ID" even neccessary in a biology class? You can have it in a religous class discuss all the other reglious groups creation stories and history.
Actually it had taken alot of historical research and study into other equally old "religous holy books" and the bible itself for me.
But some serious bible loonies fear evolution as satanism or a lie of the devil to taint their kids brains make them doubt god that they must shelter their kids from it too private schools and homeschooling to properly insulate them.
The arguement here is weither Inteligent design is valid enough in its methods to be taught in a biology class room not be viewed as "pseudo", Scientist have always said you follow the scientific method have a hypothesis (educated guess) then do the experiment give us some evidence and results to support your claims for us to look at and we may "concider it a valid alternate theory to the official one" so far they only response is either "faith" or that scientific community is in a conspiracy out to get them, So far they have said the ID community has not gotten past the "hypothesis" stage has not shown anything valid enough to be accepted most especially to be placed in a biology class before it gets the stamp of aproval.
The problem with some of the ID that I see is that many of them have flawed assumptions about science to begin with, Many are opposed to "evolution" existence all together trying to call a "darwin" cult. Unfortunately to many of the ID are of that very fundiementalist bible literalist thumber class their response to the scientific community criticism is that they are of that "darwin cult class". ID is extremely politicaly motivated and not scientific.
The problem with ID its made to be a "opposition to evolution all together" not a even concidering the possibility that evolution is as factual as the theory gravity and atomic theory disregarded alot of the obvious, Given the absolutely staggering amount of fossil evidence starting from the cambrian period where most fish had no jaws no teeth some where either completely blind or had limited visual abilities, There still is a few surviving jawed prehistoric blind fish but it seems the new more advance class of fish have out done them the blinders no longer hold majority in the sea and are close to extinction.
My father excepts evolution and God at the same time, I used to as well, My vastly deeper knowledge in science and evolution thanks to speaking with some actual professional biologist on the infidelguy forums .But its not what made me suddeny doubt the judeo christian god,As you can always say what if he guided evolution? Or he had taken his sweet old time?
If you can believe in evolution and god at the same time why then is "ID" even neccessary in a biology class? You can have it in a religous class discuss all the other reglious groups creation stories and history.
Actually it had taken alot of historical research and study into other equally old "religous holy books" and the bible itself for me.
But some serious bible loonies fear evolution as satanism or a lie of the devil to taint their kids brains make them doubt god that they must shelter their kids from it too private schools and homeschooling to properly insulate them.