29th September 2005, 3:14 AM
Ryan Wrote:Such is the expected response to militant atheism and the efforts to force it upon everyone.
You reap what you sow.
This isnt about "atheism" , This about bad junk pseudo shit bring brought into the class because of "peoples" insecurities afraid the kids might start actually thinking and questioning become skeptics doubters, Is the belief in god so unsolid and fragail that these fundiementalist must shelter their kids in homeschooling or private schools to teach them "dinosaurs" were on Noahs arch
the world is only 6,000 years :weird:
I dont know about you but its not the "atheist" forcing belief on anyone here,The fact you associate "evolution" with atheism proves my point as many do believe in god and evolution infact the "catholic church" still has the position and view even after a recent review that evolution is a little more then just a theory, "Abiogenesis" is more hypothesis then theory,The reason they use "theory" not law well a big fuck up happend a while ago with newtonian psysics when Enstein showed up , "Theory" by the scientific community is used in the sense of saying there is gonna be further break throughs updates to the current data collected and it would presumptious and foolish to say you know everything going on " saying this does this case closed end of story"just to not have a repeat of the "newtonian psysics debacle".
If its a fact like a oblate spherical earth the scientist have a solid case for their claims its the "fundies" that are the ignorant fucks trying force things on people thinking science or truth can be decided in a up or down vote as history has shown "popular opinion" doesnt mean much to what is actually there and is the case, As everybody including all the christians for centuries believed the world was flat despite the great Socrates and many "sailors stellar observations" ancient thinkers and scientist as far back as before christianity argued there was evidence the world was a globe even before other astronomers got burnt on stakes in later years as heretics for it.
The scientific community is nervous , Because now they fear the hole 'education" system and process is in jeopardy, Soon enough they will be arguing that geologist and paleontologist are wrong all the carbon daters are wrong the world to their narrow mindedness is only 6,000 years old, Yet I know of other religous groups that dont have such "restrictive timelimits" to the earth and universe birthday that dont deny or wage war on scientific fact.
Evolution is such solid science that biologist and researchers are already using it to find cures for deseases and treatments for genetic desorders "yet hold outs" still deny it as just imaginary "magic or mysticism" picturing little cartoon images of apes turning into humans in their minds
.Most of these militant fundies dont know squat about evolution or basic biology to have a credible say on it, Much the same as most folks dont know much about quantum physics or Astronomy and chemistry to have a say on it either.
"Inteligent design" doesnt work , Because unlike evolution it cant reproduce a shread of evidence or demostrate its "hypothesis" to be reviewed all it is "maybe's and total speculation",Concern is if kids just say "god did it" they may lose the curiousity and lure instead of continuing the search for knowledge and truth they just give up as soon as it gets to "tough".
There is gaps in what we know about how gravity works, Thats why its still a "theory" but we know it exist due to the obvious.
Thats why it is junk creationism in a fancy inteligent looking tuxedo, More progress looking at things naturalistily.
The founding fathers of the U.S where not all christians some where deist and free mansons agnostics, I know Madison was agnostic and Thomas Jefferson was far from being christian he compared the virginal birth to how people once honnestly believed that Minerva(Athena) emerged from Jupiters head he even said some day he suspects people will view the gospels stories the same way people view the greek pagan ones, I think General washingston is the only "christian" chap I can name but he was a freemanson for sure.
Once people really look at their bibles really dig into the texts it would make a doubter and disbeliever out of them as it has for me, Obviously people in the past before even "darwin".
If proof shows that some of founding fathers of the U.S were not staunch "born again types" but doubting Thomases and heathens never was "america a christian republic", Then can atleast non religous americans like many I know not be treated like bat shit stimatised marginalised the same as the south did to Blacks, Its a myth that "atheist" control the U.S I am sorry who controls every seat in office even the liberal ones?