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    28th September 2005, 8:24 PM
    Quote:Yes, I was quite emotional. At points I was boiling over in anger, at other points broken in tears... Which article did I respond emotionally to? The evolution one or the anti-religion one? I'll go through and edit it with the proper smilies in order to depict the emotions you believe I was feeling.

    And that last emotion was dry sarcasm. And now we've had enough sarcasm for one post, so I'll go back to being serious.

    You were clearly not happy in either, but in the first one (about 'intelligent design') you just wrote a long (completely inaccurate, unscientific, and flawed) tract on how evolutionary science isn't backed up by evidence -- this is not true of course (the evidence is, all scientists I have ever heard of agree, about as convincing as it gets in science...), but you can't admit that to yourself or you'd have to back up another step on the 'what role did science have in the universe' ladder... but the other? Well, that seemed even more impassioned... probably it was the bolding. You didn't bold things for emphasis in the first part, but you did in the second... made you look more angry ("I really want to prove that article wrong so I will").

    Anyway...

    Quote:Notice that it only happens to pro-Christian ideas? They are all about teaching diversity of sexual preferences, comparing other religions to Christianity, and more - they'll even experiement with new way to teach things like math. Haven't you seen through it yet? Diversity is simply a buzzword that is used to push what certain people want. They don't really care about treating all people equally or anything like that? It's just a convenient way to sneak an agenda. If they truly cared about presenting all ideas equally, than they would be all over teaching intelligent design so students could compare and decide the truth for themselves. But now that they have their way, they will do whatever it takes to fight opposing ideas because it's easier to force an idea down someone throat when they are clueless to alternatives than actually debating the merits of your ideas.

    Absurd right wing paranoia. "Compare"? But what is there to compare? "Here on one hand, we have scientific theory. Here on the other, the idea that God invented humanity and nature and controlled its path." How much "science" is there in the latter one? None! How do you teach this in a modern science class? You can't... not while maintaining it as a science class and not a religion class, anyway. As for diversity, notice how no other religions are brought into science classes either? :) Science is, and should be, about showing the world as we know it to be. It isn't, and shouldn't be, about promoting an unprovable and undefendable position that completely undermines the entire basis of the field being taught... (if you can't teach how things came to be in biology, what are you left with? Yeah, not much.)
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    Religion vs. Science - by Darunia - 27th September 2005, 12:21 PM
    Religion vs. Science - by Weltall - 27th September 2005, 12:39 PM
    Religion vs. Science - by Great Rumbler - 27th September 2005, 1:06 PM
    Religion vs. Science - by Geno - 27th September 2005, 1:09 PM
    Religion vs. Science - by A Black Falcon - 27th September 2005, 1:16 PM
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    Religion vs. Science - by A Black Falcon - 27th September 2005, 1:24 PM
    Religion vs. Science - by Geno - 27th September 2005, 1:33 PM
    Religion vs. Science - by A Black Falcon - 27th September 2005, 2:10 PM
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    Religion vs. Science - by Darunia - 27th September 2005, 2:34 PM
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    Religion vs. Science - by Laser Link - 28th September 2005, 7:52 AM
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