XBox Live is doing pretty well.

[Dark Jaguar]

Ah yes, the bundle was an excellent idea. Nintendo used to do that all the time, with like 20 different NES bundles, 10 different GB bundles, and about 5 SNES bundles. Then, they stopped. Sure, bundles were a purely American concept, but dropping it in America, instead of the profitable decision of starting it in Japan, was a mistake. I can see the obvious costs of doing it with cartridge systems, but optical disks cost like 50 cents total to make, so I'm sure Nintendo, or Sony, could both easily afford to toss in some free games. Sony didn't need to of course. MS realized how cheap it was, and how much of a selling point it would be, so they did. Nintendo's marketing department is, well, a standard marketing department, and they ALL suck. MS may have been smart enough to sick a parrot man style of employee on the marketing team (the parrot man would repeat all the problems the team reports back at them, but in a way that makes THEM sound stupid). However, alas Nintendo's marketing team, worse than normal, may have accidently done something like got a magazine, which is one of the WORST things a marketing team member can get ahold of.