NEW Perfect Dark Zero pics!

[A Black Falcon]

You're going to have to stop putting words in my mouth, it's frustrating to say the least. The character models, just the character models!

No, OB1 always knows what you mean... what you think you mean is only incidental.

... yes, it is very annoying. Even in cases like this one where he's more right than wrong.

Why release those shots in the first place, and those clips on that MTV special which is the only way all of these casual gamers are going to see the game for a very long time? Huh? MS cannot be that dumb. They simply can't.

But hey, continue kidding yourself. Keep that spirit.

Because that's what they had at the time... I'm sure it will get better, though. Though forcing it as a launch title won't help... I mean, Rare did fantastic things on the N64, but their first two games (KI Gold and Blast Corps) weren't spectacular graphical titles. That came with the later games... I think that they work best when given time. Too much time, by most standards. The thing is, MS wants games, not infinite dev cycles... so it'll come out looking good, but not as good as Rare could have gotten it if given a Duke Nukem Forever-style infinite dev cycle. :)

But you have two different sets of pics with different levels of quality, plus the video. How is that substantial evidence to base an argument on the level of quality on the final product? The video (NOT THE MTV VIDEO) is what I've been judging my reaction on this entire time. Never moved from it...*watching it again right now*...yep, still stand by it.

It looks current-gen at best. I won't say that becuase you're defending it so much you're an X-Box fanboy or something, but you clearly are not looking realistically at this game... it doesn't match up to the other X-Box 360 stuff we have seen! Deal with it! But saying 'it's unfinished hardware', 'it'll get better'... while true, it's irrelevant. Other games are running on that same exact hardware and look better than this one does.

Yes, I know what video you are talking about! The quality is not good for what is supposed to ne a next-gen system!

I think you're just expecting too much from the next generation... as hardware gets more powerful seeing as big of a difference gets harder and harder to do. We haven't maxed out graphics yet, but they've gotten very, very good... it's just not realistic to expect a PS1-to-PS2 level of jump between generations this time. I mean, even the best looking next-gen stuff is just evolutionary, not revolutionary, when compared to current-gen games...