"This year's E3 is not Revolution's coming out party,"

[Dark Jaguar]

Actually I never had a problem with Sunshine's moves, they are frickin' easy. I mastered the game some time ago with no problem, about a week after I got it in fact. Prince of Persia's controls are different. They are pretty solid, but they don't give you much of a window to perform the wall jump. You have to hit the button within a very small amount of time, and it's hard to get that timing down, for me anyway. I believe I mentioned this before, but I never said I had trouble playing Mario Sunshine. Those moves are easy to pull off.

Oh and, seriously that water gun doesn't add jack. There's the super jump(pfft) and the hovering (better), but they don't add much. Really the only one that's really all that fun is the jet that lets you go at sonic speeds. They ended up removing more moves then they added...

Hey, I never said I hated the game either. I like it and all, but the whole genre just got old for me. One can only go jiggy hunting so long before it gets tiresome. I like Mario 64 because it was the first one of those games I played, and I enjoyed it the most because it was so new. Mario Sunshine adds a bit, but oh well. You know, I never would have thought I could beat Mario 64 with a direction pad myself. I don't recall anything that absolutely needed you to be able to move more precisely than 8 primary directions and two speeds in Sunshine. Now, don't get me wrong, it would be hard. Beating Mario 64 with a d-pad was frickin' tough at times too, but for the most part I don't think it would be all that big a deal. But, this is all just theoretical. Until one of us can actually try it out like that, there's no point in really arguing one way or the other. I'm just saying I don't see it being much tougher, and still possible.