5th April 2005, 11:38 AM
hahaha :D
DJ/ i still think FF6 has a good story for a video game, but it's when you compare it to films or books that it becomes transparent. But there are plenty of krap movies and books out there though.
Abd I have to argue with you about your definition of evil. if you dont know what you're doing is evil then you are not evil. it's when you purposely do things for the purposes of evil that you are indeed evil :D Lucifer came to be seen as having been second in command to God himself; he was the highest archangel in heaven, but he was motivated by pride and greed to rebel against God and was cast out of heaven with the angels who followed his lead. Lucy wanted God to love him more than he loved humans and fought God in a massive war. God won and sent thousands of his beloved children out of heaven, twisting them in to demons.
the act that Lucifer and his followers commited was not evil in itself, but when he was cast down, he swore hatered for God and humans, and then sought revenge. That is his evil; he exists for the sole purpose of making our lives miserable hoping to destroy us.
God commits similar acts of what seems like torture to humans but he does it in the hopes of making us stronger and to weed out the trouble makers. He does this because he believes it to be ultimately good and so it is. Lucy does it in the belief that it is destructive and so it is as well.
In story telling, when a character does something evil in the hopes of doing something for the greater good he is either pittied or feared because the audience knows he is driven by a good idea with a horrible excecution - that character is not evil, he's simply confused. That's the base character of Darth Vader. God as well seems evil at times, destroying a city and killing its inhabitants or murdering thousands of children, all for the 'greater good'.
In the case of Darth Vader, he realized that he was being led by a Lucifer and Darth Vader died at the exact moment he threw Palps down that hole and became Anakin again. He redeemed himself, and thus became the ultimate hero of the Star Wars saga by killing the ultimate evil of the universe.
DJ/ i still think FF6 has a good story for a video game, but it's when you compare it to films or books that it becomes transparent. But there are plenty of krap movies and books out there though.
Abd I have to argue with you about your definition of evil. if you dont know what you're doing is evil then you are not evil. it's when you purposely do things for the purposes of evil that you are indeed evil :D Lucifer came to be seen as having been second in command to God himself; he was the highest archangel in heaven, but he was motivated by pride and greed to rebel against God and was cast out of heaven with the angels who followed his lead. Lucy wanted God to love him more than he loved humans and fought God in a massive war. God won and sent thousands of his beloved children out of heaven, twisting them in to demons.
the act that Lucifer and his followers commited was not evil in itself, but when he was cast down, he swore hatered for God and humans, and then sought revenge. That is his evil; he exists for the sole purpose of making our lives miserable hoping to destroy us.
God commits similar acts of what seems like torture to humans but he does it in the hopes of making us stronger and to weed out the trouble makers. He does this because he believes it to be ultimately good and so it is. Lucy does it in the belief that it is destructive and so it is as well.
In story telling, when a character does something evil in the hopes of doing something for the greater good he is either pittied or feared because the audience knows he is driven by a good idea with a horrible excecution - that character is not evil, he's simply confused. That's the base character of Darth Vader. God as well seems evil at times, destroying a city and killing its inhabitants or murdering thousands of children, all for the 'greater good'.
In the case of Darth Vader, he realized that he was being led by a Lucifer and Darth Vader died at the exact moment he threw Palps down that hole and became Anakin again. He redeemed himself, and thus became the ultimate hero of the Star Wars saga by killing the ultimate evil of the universe.