28th February 2005, 8:16 PM
....your point? :D
You have to understand, to me artificial and natural are meaningless phrases. I say this because from a scientific point of view such designations are meaningless. I mean, a drum had to be made from existing materials, and they had to be made using existing means. Besides that, birds build nests all the time. Is a bird's nest considered unnatural? If the argument is that it's the bird's nature, then let me remind you that the only reason we do, or in fact the only reason we CAN build such things is because it is in our nature to do so. After all, if building was not in our nature, we couldn't possibly be motivated to do it, ever. By that I mean not even the situation of a human forcing another human to build something could ever come up since the idea of building wouldn't be there to begin with. So from my point of view the designation of my voice as natural and my synthesizer as unnatural is arbitrary.
Just my thoughts on this. What argument do you present to say otherwise? I could understand a religious basis for it if you can quote something.
Since so many other beliefs do have subsects, I decided to take away the indicate thing up there. Also, I added "Jedi", due to what I assume is the fairly common knowledge of a fellow in Australia who wrote that into the "other" section of some religion survey done across the country. I dunno, PH could tell us more I bet.
You have to understand, to me artificial and natural are meaningless phrases. I say this because from a scientific point of view such designations are meaningless. I mean, a drum had to be made from existing materials, and they had to be made using existing means. Besides that, birds build nests all the time. Is a bird's nest considered unnatural? If the argument is that it's the bird's nature, then let me remind you that the only reason we do, or in fact the only reason we CAN build such things is because it is in our nature to do so. After all, if building was not in our nature, we couldn't possibly be motivated to do it, ever. By that I mean not even the situation of a human forcing another human to build something could ever come up since the idea of building wouldn't be there to begin with. So from my point of view the designation of my voice as natural and my synthesizer as unnatural is arbitrary.
Just my thoughts on this. What argument do you present to say otherwise? I could understand a religious basis for it if you can quote something.
Since so many other beliefs do have subsects, I decided to take away the indicate thing up there. Also, I added "Jedi", due to what I assume is the fairly common knowledge of a fellow in Australia who wrote that into the "other" section of some religion survey done across the country. I dunno, PH could tell us more I bet.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)