The stupid debate that ABF made even stupider thread

[A Black Falcon]

That doesn't make any sense. Again. I was having a very specific discussion with Ryan, and you went off on a wild tangent. I'm pretty sure that I know what was off-topic since I was the one who started the topic. Idiot.

I responded to what he said even before you did so you can't say that you and him were the only relevant people...

You're doing it again.

Because you are too.

There is a reason why I was able to discuss this with Ryan in a civil manner. Why don't you try and figure out why that is

Sure. It's because, unlike with me, you didn't enter your discussion with him with the preconception that everything he was going to say would automatically be wrong and stupid and that you'd ignore it all and insult him instead. Pretty simple.

Why should I respond to something that was a response to something that I never said? I will not encourage your delusions.

I don't think you disagree with anything in the statement, OB1... you only say that because you have it in your mind that I am always wrong, not because of anything I actually said.

"this discussion is here because Weltall said more people should read, which is true, and that most people prefer mind-not-required media like television, which is also true. Your counter-argument is that movies can be like that too. Sometimes they can, in most all respects (the 'imagination' argument, probably the one exception, is an essentially unrelated issue), but that point really doesn't matter here! Not much in the TV/movie media form USES that potential and most consumers don't WANT it to because that actually would require some thought. Books, by virtue of being a more challenging media form to consume (it is harder to read than it is to watch.), have a smaller base audience which already is predetermined to at least somewhat want more depth so there would probably be a greater proportion of people who want even more complexity than that.

Oh yeah, and many of them are probably people who would also like complex films if they watched them, I'd bet."