31st March 2005, 8:00 PM
All I can say is dont base your conclusions in this case on propaganda online , There is so many conspiracy theories slaped on the Husband it starts to get absurd , There is alot of misinformation that even I bought into at one time a long time ago. Everyone one of us are bystanders in this , We dont know the hole facts on the matter besides the huge sentionalism on tv and online that gives you conflicting or false impressions.
Well I can agree I think it should be made not just in the U.S but my country as well if not already , That a legal document and written will is required rather then just witness testimony. In Terris case it waisnt just her husband who is the sole person claiming she told him that, Two other people witness it that night in question and also testified in court.
The fundie zealots need to shove their religous crap someone else as not everyone is christian and not all xtian demoninations or individuals interpret things the same way in the bible , Was Jesus a sinner for not trying to persserve his life instead of giving it up willing fully knowing what would happen? The bible gives permision and authority in some circumstances to take a life in the OT for example ,"eye for an eye" and all those stonings and military campaigns done by Hebrews and eventually Isreal.
Somthing both I and probaily Ryan as well can relate is that Terri Schiavo struggled with obesity a good lenght of her life ,Terri Was 250 pounds in high school so embarrased by that she didnt want to go to her prom often turned away when someone tried to take a picture.
When she got into college she told everyone she was on some sort of new "diet" nobody knew what it was but she was noticiably losing weight and got all this praise and attention for it ,Eventually she trimed down to 110 pounds in her last few years of life , Recieved alot of sexual attention like never before.
Bulimia is the cause of the incident , Its a secretive desease because they can eat a full meal with you and go vomit it out later while nobody is looking.
She lossed alot of vital nutrients and had a potassium defiency to her heart ,So it had stoped she lossed blood and oxygen flow to the brain for several minutes, Then Caused a cardiac arrest and sort of a stroke that gave her brain a further shock.
When you get into a PVS perminant vegettated state , Its not coma and its alot more significant then just some brain damage its the state of being awake but not unaware or no sentience is present. My dads old school buddy daughter was in that state her hole life because of a botched delivery done by a incompitent docter , She died a few years ago at the age of 15 and she looked pettiful never grew much her muscles were all shrunken and left completely dependant on others, Being bed ridden and motionless it probaily would have come eventually for Schiavo as well you got blood cloting and higher chances of internal infections like the Pope right now .
What happend is alot of her brain tissue was dead , Then liguified and disolved inside. The cerebral cortex thats abosolutely neccesary to have one if your gonna be abled to make your own thoughts and decisions and be sentient , Otherwise you are indeed a vegetable its like a computer with no Ram or processor and its HDD completely reset its just a blank.
You can be kept alive on auto pilot per say if you want to call it that by the lower brain stem if its still intact , Its the part that manages and controls the life support functions of the body, Does give mechanical physical responses , Retracting hands and slight jerks and movements,Blinking nobody needs to think to blink the same way we dont need to concentrate to breath or run our internal organs. When you leap in shock because a loud pow just went off behind you, I bet you never put any thought into that because its a mechanical wake up response, If you claped or caused alot of noise near a person in PVS they might jerk or move slightly in response in the same manner,Move your finger close to her eyes and it might follow it somewhat.
As for moaning and grunts even slight panting laughs , These have been reported in alot of PVS cases , Often people do this in their sleep unaware , It is mechanical as well ,Making a word or hand gestures is a big leap from just making a moan.
There has been more then one case on this matter , Plenty of reviews and apeals as well , Its probaily recieved more use of the legal and medical system then other case in a long time not just in the U.S.A but maybe the hole continent.
This is a painfulful thing , For both families on all sides , The biggest crime is if this is further milked for someones political whims. Nobody should take advantage of a families tragedy for political gain such as the anti abortion movement , I dont think there will be any to gain though, There has been more people going through this right now even in my country some old long forgotten cases have been dug up.
We are in a sitution today facing new problems we previously never had too , These artificial life sustaining technologies can keep someone who otherwise would die naturally alive and prolong there existence artificially.
It so happens both me and my father are getting a will ourselves , This could happen to any of us anyday, Car accident , Hit by a bus, Mysterious ailment ,head injury.
As for the method of starvation , Well thats not because of cruel liberalism but extreme conservatism that would view any other way as "assisted suicide", This situation is a attempt to let nature takes it course kind of thing atleast in the minds of those who refuse to allow a quicker swifter humane method , Dogs get treated better then this when they are put down we put them to sleep.
In most cases though they may require a ventilator and other machines that would simpily when removed cause death within minutes or seconds.
I dont think Terri felt anything, She had no cerebral cortex and they were giving pain killers regardless , I think the worse trauma is to the love ones force to contemplate the idea of this person slowly dieing like this any normal healthy person in this situation would be in extreme agony.
Well I can agree I think it should be made not just in the U.S but my country as well if not already , That a legal document and written will is required rather then just witness testimony. In Terris case it waisnt just her husband who is the sole person claiming she told him that, Two other people witness it that night in question and also testified in court.
The fundie zealots need to shove their religous crap someone else as not everyone is christian and not all xtian demoninations or individuals interpret things the same way in the bible , Was Jesus a sinner for not trying to persserve his life instead of giving it up willing fully knowing what would happen? The bible gives permision and authority in some circumstances to take a life in the OT for example ,"eye for an eye" and all those stonings and military campaigns done by Hebrews and eventually Isreal.
Somthing both I and probaily Ryan as well can relate is that Terri Schiavo struggled with obesity a good lenght of her life ,Terri Was 250 pounds in high school so embarrased by that she didnt want to go to her prom often turned away when someone tried to take a picture.
When she got into college she told everyone she was on some sort of new "diet" nobody knew what it was but she was noticiably losing weight and got all this praise and attention for it ,Eventually she trimed down to 110 pounds in her last few years of life , Recieved alot of sexual attention like never before.
Bulimia is the cause of the incident , Its a secretive desease because they can eat a full meal with you and go vomit it out later while nobody is looking.
She lossed alot of vital nutrients and had a potassium defiency to her heart ,So it had stoped she lossed blood and oxygen flow to the brain for several minutes, Then Caused a cardiac arrest and sort of a stroke that gave her brain a further shock.
When you get into a PVS perminant vegettated state , Its not coma and its alot more significant then just some brain damage its the state of being awake but not unaware or no sentience is present. My dads old school buddy daughter was in that state her hole life because of a botched delivery done by a incompitent docter , She died a few years ago at the age of 15 and she looked pettiful never grew much her muscles were all shrunken and left completely dependant on others, Being bed ridden and motionless it probaily would have come eventually for Schiavo as well you got blood cloting and higher chances of internal infections like the Pope right now .
What happend is alot of her brain tissue was dead , Then liguified and disolved inside. The cerebral cortex thats abosolutely neccesary to have one if your gonna be abled to make your own thoughts and decisions and be sentient , Otherwise you are indeed a vegetable its like a computer with no Ram or processor and its HDD completely reset its just a blank.
You can be kept alive on auto pilot per say if you want to call it that by the lower brain stem if its still intact , Its the part that manages and controls the life support functions of the body, Does give mechanical physical responses , Retracting hands and slight jerks and movements,Blinking nobody needs to think to blink the same way we dont need to concentrate to breath or run our internal organs. When you leap in shock because a loud pow just went off behind you, I bet you never put any thought into that because its a mechanical wake up response, If you claped or caused alot of noise near a person in PVS they might jerk or move slightly in response in the same manner,Move your finger close to her eyes and it might follow it somewhat.
As for moaning and grunts even slight panting laughs , These have been reported in alot of PVS cases , Often people do this in their sleep unaware , It is mechanical as well ,Making a word or hand gestures is a big leap from just making a moan.
There has been more then one case on this matter , Plenty of reviews and apeals as well , Its probaily recieved more use of the legal and medical system then other case in a long time not just in the U.S.A but maybe the hole continent.
This is a painfulful thing , For both families on all sides , The biggest crime is if this is further milked for someones political whims. Nobody should take advantage of a families tragedy for political gain such as the anti abortion movement , I dont think there will be any to gain though, There has been more people going through this right now even in my country some old long forgotten cases have been dug up.
We are in a sitution today facing new problems we previously never had too , These artificial life sustaining technologies can keep someone who otherwise would die naturally alive and prolong there existence artificially.
It so happens both me and my father are getting a will ourselves , This could happen to any of us anyday, Car accident , Hit by a bus, Mysterious ailment ,head injury.
As for the method of starvation , Well thats not because of cruel liberalism but extreme conservatism that would view any other way as "assisted suicide", This situation is a attempt to let nature takes it course kind of thing atleast in the minds of those who refuse to allow a quicker swifter humane method , Dogs get treated better then this when they are put down we put them to sleep.
In most cases though they may require a ventilator and other machines that would simpily when removed cause death within minutes or seconds.
I dont think Terri felt anything, She had no cerebral cortex and they were giving pain killers regardless , I think the worse trauma is to the love ones force to contemplate the idea of this person slowly dieing like this any normal healthy person in this situation would be in extreme agony.