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    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine
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    7th December 2004, 3:43 PM
    Quote:When they apply to you, sure.

    Whatever You're a god among men when it comes to witty rebuttals, Brian.

    Quote:A very effective and compltely accurate one, but I did want more detail so I added a few paragraphs there. Reread that part.

    Yes, not addressing my points and replying to your own delusions is very effective and accurate.

    Rolleyes

    Quote:If you go back and read what I was saying in the first thread about this, I created the thread talking specifically about Arena and how playing that influenced my opinion of open-ended RPGs vs. more focused ones. Yes, Morrowind was in the background because Morrowind is also a open-ended RPG and a TES game, but I didn't start talking about it until it became the main subject... and even then, I don't think I've been making assumptions about it that are false. If you want to prove that wrong find something I said about Morrowind in specific that isn't true, but I don't think that I did much of it and if it was it was definitely unintentional...

    And I can't play Morrowind because that would require buying Morrowind, and there are a few PC RPGs that I want a bit more (Wizardry 8 for instance)... stupidly there is no demo. But I have a pretty good idea of the way teh game works, and on the level I'm talking about I am sure that playing it would simply show that what I am saying is correct (that is, that the more open-ended you make your game the less sense of place each location has, the less unique the quests are in each area, the weaker the story is, etc...). That has been true for every other open-ended RPG I have played (not just the TES games) and I am sure that Morrowind is no exception. The only question is the degree... and based on the reviews, it seems to vary from category to category along the lines of the previous TES games. Which is about what I'd expect... sure, if I played Morrowind I could talk better about Morrowind. But my case doesn't hinge on Morrowind. OB1 seems to still think so, but it never did and still doesn't.

    In fact it is the opposite. Morrowind is a game that could help present my arguement better, to be sure, but it is not necessary to talk about it to discuss how much linearity or open-endedness affects RPGs. It would work about as well if we discussed some of the many other games I reference on this issue, or others... so many PC RPGs have some non-linear element that it's a rich field for discussion for anyone who has played much in the genre.

    You specifically cited Morrowind in your argument, and you even posted negative reviews of the game to help your "opinion".

    Seriously man, this is really sad and pathetic. GR's already conceded some, yet you're still sticking to your retarded guns. Just give it up already and you might gain a bit of respect from us.
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    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 22nd November 2004, 12:20 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 22nd November 2004, 12:53 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 22nd November 2004, 6:58 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 22nd November 2004, 7:02 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by Great Rumbler - 22nd November 2004, 7:12 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 22nd November 2004, 7:17 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by Great Rumbler - 22nd November 2004, 7:54 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 22nd November 2004, 8:19 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 22nd November 2004, 8:43 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 22nd November 2004, 9:44 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by Great Rumbler - 23rd November 2004, 7:02 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 23rd November 2004, 11:27 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 24th November 2004, 9:52 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 24th November 2004, 11:03 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 24th November 2004, 10:23 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by Great Rumbler - 25th November 2004, 2:05 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 5th December 2004, 8:14 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 6th December 2004, 10:08 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by Great Rumbler - 6th December 2004, 1:01 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 6th December 2004, 1:07 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 6th December 2004, 1:32 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 6th December 2004, 6:17 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 6th December 2004, 6:40 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by Great Rumbler - 6th December 2004, 6:59 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 6th December 2004, 7:04 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 6th December 2004, 7:44 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 7th December 2004, 11:29 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 7th December 2004, 12:30 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 7th December 2004, 1:40 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by Great Rumbler - 7th December 2004, 2:24 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 7th December 2004, 2:26 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 7th December 2004, 2:31 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by Great Rumbler - 7th December 2004, 2:34 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 7th December 2004, 2:39 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 7th December 2004, 2:47 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 7th December 2004, 3:43 PM
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    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 7th December 2004, 7:36 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 7th December 2004, 9:06 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 7th December 2004, 9:08 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 8th December 2004, 10:31 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 8th December 2004, 12:22 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 8th December 2004, 12:25 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 8th December 2004, 12:46 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 8th December 2004, 2:06 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 8th December 2004, 3:52 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 8th December 2004, 3:58 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 8th December 2004, 8:57 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 8th December 2004, 9:41 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 9th December 2004, 10:58 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 9th December 2004, 11:27 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 9th December 2004, 12:42 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by Great Rumbler - 9th December 2004, 1:09 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 9th December 2004, 2:02 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 9th December 2004, 3:02 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 9th December 2004, 3:09 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by alien space marine - 9th December 2004, 3:57 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 9th December 2004, 4:53 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 10th December 2004, 11:36 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 10th December 2004, 11:37 AM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 10th December 2004, 1:18 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 10th December 2004, 1:20 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by A Black Falcon - 10th December 2004, 1:25 PM
    Haha, ABF gets a taste of his own medicine - by OB1 - 10th December 2004, 2:24 PM

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