6th November 2004, 7:51 PM
ABF Wrote:It is utterly sickening that people can still win major political points in this country by opressing and spreading lies about minorities.
The Democrats are masters of such practices. They have brought utter ruination to blacks socially over the last 35 years or so, yet still have a svengali-like deathgrip over their voting power. THAT is sickening.
EdenMaster Wrote:"Forcing" gay marriage upon us? Hardly the right choice of words, my friend. When you say it such as that, it makes it seem as though soon we'll all be forced INTO gay marriages. In allowing gays to marriage, all we are forcing ourselves to do is accept them for who they are, and who they are, is different. A different lifestyle than our own. America was founded for such tolerance.
To hell with them, right? To hell with any ideals different from our own! Yes! Let us not allow these different people the freedom to celebrate their love because it doesn't fit with our narrow view of society! Oppression will make America strong!
You can't honestly think that way, Ryan. You're smarter than that. If you despise the KKK such as I do for baselessly hating blacks, then how can you rightly throw stones at gays simply because they, too, are different? Are you truly so narrow-minded?
That's harsh to say. You need to read what I said more closely.
I do not like the idea of gay marriage. I know it will happen eventually, however, and I do not hate it with fervent passion like many people do. I've actually grown less worried about it over time, but the idea is still repugnant to me, and I can't see that changing.
But most people in America do not like the idea, and believe that it further trivializes traditional marriage. Liberals love to point out that marriage is increasingly worthless (mostly thanks to ever-decreasing moral standards), so what does one more attack hurt? It's like intentionally injuring a person and justifying it by saying the person was going to die eventually anyway. But obviously, most Americans know this is stupid reasoning, and their opinion resonated at the polls five days ago. They correctly saw the democratic process being circumvented in the liberals' approach to make gay marriage possible in America.
I think the backlash against gay marriage was not just a Christian reaction. I think it was also a message to liberals, teaching them it's not a good idea to abuse the judicial system to force their agendas on everyone else, which is essentially what they did in Massachusetts. It was a reaction against the methods for many people, I think. It was the flashpoint, and that the topic was gay marriage was more of a periphery. Note that I firmly believe gay marriage will be a reality in America in my lifetime, because each generation of Americans is more tolerant than the one before it. Someday our children will be the power and voice of this nation, and they will likely see things differently than we do on many things, and I think acceptance of gay marriage will be one of those things. If gay marriage comes into existence nationwide in the future, it will be because a majority of Americans WANT it to be. Right now, a majority of Americans do NOT want it to be, and it should not be, because of this. That is how the democratic process works. The will of the people is enforced, even though there isn't unanimous agreement.
Therefore, my opinion on gay marriage is irrelevant to the topic at hand, as Virginia already has laws banning it, thus it was not part of my state's referendum and I did not vote on it. I'm merely showing why the measures failed, and why they will for some time.
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