And to rub this in even more, here's are some excerpts from this thread back in January, where ABF posted an article about the PSP costing $450:
In regards to the $450 PSP price article the thread was about, I wrote:
And you replied with:
Hahaha, oh my. I knew this day would come when I'd force you to eat crow, and I'm enjoying every minute of it. And please, don't embarrass yourself by denying anything. Just admit that you were wrong, very, very wrong, and that I was right. It is a fact, there is no way you can spin it.
Here's some more:
Anyhow, this continues on for another 10,000 or so posts.
If you were anyone else I wouldn't gloat so much, Brian, but during all of that time that I defended the PSP, I knew that this exact day would come and I would be proven right, and you would be forced to admit that you were foolish and wrong. If you want to retain any amount of respect you know what you have to do: Admit that you were wrong. It may be impossible for you to do since you've never done it before, but I will actually gain some respect for you if you do that. There are two ways out of this for you, bubba. One is with dignity and the other without.
OB1 Wrote:There's no way in hell the system will cost $450 in the states. No way. Sony knows it won't sell at the price, unless they recently replaced Ken Kutaragi with Carrot Top.
ABF Wrote:OB1, OB1, OB1... given your previous attitudes on this thing I thought you'd do this. I just don't get why you seem determined to be the biggest PSP fanboy you can be... it's so clearly flawed in so many ways! It's really perplexing how you keep insisting that it will crush the GBA and is direct competition to the GBA from the start despite so much evidence otherwise. I don't get it... before this I'd never have thought of you as a Sony fanboy... Oh, and you just don't seem to get what market Sony is aiming at with the thing. This price should clue you in.
But when you see a report that clearly has people from Sony saying "we are aiming at a somewhat different market" and "there is room for both to be successful" and price it more than four times more than the GB...
You react by saying 'it'll be cheaper here'.
Now. You may be right. Things usually do cost more in Europe and somewhat more in Japan than they do here. However, it's just by degrees, not by large amounts. As in, it might be $425, or if you're really lucky maybe even $400, but that'd be a bargain-basement price given what they are saying here, and the fact that they are saying that unlike with the PSX/2 they want to make money on the hardware. I think the fact that they are saying they want to make money on the hardware is a admission on their part that the PSP isn't going to crush the GBA anytime soon and making it a bit cheaper would be pointless as they will never get it down to GB-level prices. In some ways it's smart... what if it was $300, and they take a $100-plus loss on every one? They'd sell better, somewhat, but would be a massive loser and they wouldn't be getting profitable anytime soon... but this way it'll be profitable no matter how few it sells (now I'm sure it'll sell out at launch, etc... I'm talking about in a bit longer term than that)... it's an admission that the GB is not a realistic target, but also one that they intend to stay alive in the handheld business. If it was just a giant loser it might not survive... interesting.
OB1 Wrote:When Sony says that the PSP will not directly compete with the GBA, they mean that as an insult towards the GBA. They're calling it a toy. Of course the PSP will not directly compete with the GBA. The GBA will be obsolete next to the PSP. It'll be like comparing a Porsche 911 to a Yugo. Like the PS2 competiting with the N64. The PSP will compete with Nintendo's next handheld, and the longer they wait before they release it the harder it will be to remain on top. I don't believe this rumor from that website. Sony didn't get on top because of blind luck, no matter how much you tell yourself that. They've always had low licensing fees, and they still manage to make big bucks with the PlayStation systems. I really can't imagine them actually trying to make a profit per handheld sold, as they know that it would never sell that well at that price point. Unless of course they've gotten cocky like Nintendo was when Sony came out of nowhere and crushed them. But I don't really believe that just yet.Oh how right I was on both accounts. The PSP is going to be competiting with the DS, not the GBA. And the PSP is not going to be too expensive.
ABF Wrote:I just fundamentally don't understand how you think it's fine to take facts from the home console market and transtlate them straight to the portables without any additions. As I've said many times, there are different realities and expectations in the portable market. Sony has made a product. It is a product that fits well in a specific market. That market is the group of products on the next level up from the Game Boy. It looks like a competitor to the Palms and iPods of the world, not the Game Boys, from every measure I can see.Haha, I wonder if you still believe that.
ABF Wrote:It will indeed compete with the next GB... well, either this PSP will or one of inevitable hardware revisions will... but it will compete with the GBA first and for most consumers the choice will be obvious. The PSP may look really cool, but the limitations are just prohibitive (or plain unatractive) for a handheld for most people.
In regards to the $450 PSP price article the thread was about, I wrote:
OB1 Wrote:I don't believe this rumor from that website.
And you replied with:
ABF Wrote:Rumor? Please "read" the articles you see before you say that...
Here is the source article.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/conten...me=new&aid=2787 <http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=new&aid=2787>
Look at it. Sony Europe head... oh, then add those two paragraphs from my post a couple posts up that I got from VE3D, they were in the original paper article mentioned in that article. This is the Sony Europe head, not some nobody... and those "rumors" of the Japanese price being 48000-50000 Yen sound fairly reliable too. As I said, you're just in denial because you're a PSP fanboy.
Hahaha, oh my. I knew this day would come when I'd force you to eat crow, and I'm enjoying every minute of it. And please, don't embarrass yourself by denying anything. Just admit that you were wrong, very, very wrong, and that I was right. It is a fact, there is no way you can spin it.
Here's some more:
OB1 Wrote:The two markets are very similar to each other, the main difference being that Nintendo is the only one in the handheld market. They're both video game markets. Both have/had a cocky Nintendo thinking that no one can touch them. The only way Nintendo will be able to maintain the number one spot is if they do two things: 1) Take Sony seriously and have an even more powerful handheld ready no more than six months after the PSP launches, and 2) Sony makes more than just their usual amount of mistakes and screw up big time. As much as I'd like that to happen, I don't think it will.
OB1 Wrote:I love it how you've already found out the price of the PSP and its games even though we only have rumors and speculation. Great "facts".
OB1 Wrote:Yes, I'm a PSP fanboy because I'm not blind and biased like you are, even though I want Nintendo to succeed more than you do. I hope that's not all you got, Brian. Because it's wearing pretty thin.
The yen price is a rumor. It's a guess. And the Sony head was giving a guess as well. I'll wait until official word.
Anyhow, this continues on for another 10,000 or so posts.
If you were anyone else I wouldn't gloat so much, Brian, but during all of that time that I defended the PSP, I knew that this exact day would come and I would be proven right, and you would be forced to admit that you were foolish and wrong. If you want to retain any amount of respect you know what you have to do: Admit that you were wrong. It may be impossible for you to do since you've never done it before, but I will actually gain some respect for you if you do that. There are two ways out of this for you, bubba. One is with dignity and the other without.