9th July 2004, 7:13 PM
(This post was last modified: 9th July 2004, 7:26 PM by alien space marine.)
Great Rumbler Wrote:I could say that my donkey is a camel, but that doesn't make it anything other than a donkey. A donkey is a donkey and people born in Canada are Canadians. It doesn't have anything to do with culture.
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Argh!! This debate is so dumb!!
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Must get high and jerk to my dog
Were not talking about Donkeys and Camels!
The U.S is about imigrants, people still attache themselves to their heritage and mother lands, America never existed untill england colonized it, Then you became independant fine call yourselves whatever you want but your not a specific race or language just a community of groups sharing one house.
People in Iraq concider themselves arabs and muslims not Iraqis if you said the arabs did this and that you would be including them and all islamic and arabic nations.If you said iraqis you would be specifically refering to them individualy the same way you reffer to a specific state.Those Borders and countries were all created by england and foreign invaders, At one time they were all part of united empires stretching far everywhere.
In canada's case New France Aka Quebec and also Acadia were conquered by the brittish forces , Acadia was easily taken first since it waisnt officially part of the french empire and was kind of a private colony of french people that didnt have a large army, The Acadians had a seperate distinct culture for 200 years infact Acadia existed longer then Canada has in a time frame, But even despite that the acadians still concider themselves french and spoke the language. Then the brits from new England or shall we say colonial forces came in taken the place over, demanded the acadian french people swear loyalty to the crown of England ,they would have agreed to pay taxes but not take up arms agaist their motherland in france,They were expeled and they were sent everywhere all over north america had their farms and lands striped away after generations of maintaining it.But a large group founded New Orleans in Lousiana.
Quebec also fell , But later and not without a Fucking long war, But the Mohawk Iroquois indians and France stupidity caught up with us. The English didnt really give a crap about the french population untill after confederation day when we decided to have a democracy and call ourselves canadians and have freedom and equal rights. Quebec was determined to have its own leaders and be distingished confederation was kind of forced on them, The acadians returned from exile to find that the english and brittish colonist had swarmed the place, They are more intergrated then quebec with canada, Everywhere you go in new brunswick you will see ass loads of Acadian flags and Acadian historical sites and hole towns populated by french Acadians.
![[Image: acadie-th.jpg]](http://www.landrystuff.com/acadie-th.jpg)
This Flag is as common as grass in new brunswick , Now can you see why french canadians still concider themselves distinctly french like french toast and french dressing, can you see now why some Would be offended by such a comment?!! These people are still demanding queen Elizabeth apologize for what happend hundreds of years ago.
What makes our history different is that canada was formed on both french and english colonies and terroritories, America was all brit colonies or imigrants who joined and asimulated just the same. What is Canadian? Thats somthing the hole country cant really come to one conclusion on, But the only common thing is we are all living in this community together.The very word Canada is based off the aboriginal word Kinada(?) which basically means village or community.
New Brunswick hosted the francophone french summit, Every french ass came to canada in that province,we lived in a small 150,000 town called moncton and we had deplomats from freaking africa and vietnam showing up much less Mr Jacque Chirac president of France taking a sofa. Mr Chirac gave his blessing to the Acadians and told them to live long and prosper without the Vulcan hand thing. The Highlights the president of Congo punched a guy in the face and was held in jail but released cause of deplomatic immunity the next year he was asasinated in his country.
Sorry for the fucking novel, but its just so fun !