20th May 2004, 9:18 AM
I would say they're nearly identicle. If you use my theory, it makes sense because Hyrule 2 is a reflection of the real Hyrule. I also think Hyrule 2 is what will eventually become the Golden Land.
This also works on a metaphorical scale with the new creatures.
In the story, there are two special people that must find their counterpart and 'activate' the link between them. For the Kokiri tree people you see a young boy who plays fiddle and looks almost like Link. For the bird people, you see a young female Zora that plays harp (Sheik's instrument)
Kokiri: The Kokiri are actual tree-people in WW. No longer the little children we saw. This could be because the Kokiri aren't children, they're forest elves that dont change appearance with age. Without the Deku tree, the elves will die. So they're basically a part of the Deku tree. One of them, the one that gets in the most trouble and plays a fiddle, is related to a Kokiri boy. This Kokiri boy is his 'real life' counter part, still frozen in time under the waves.
The bird people: A side from looking a little bit like the Zoras, they're completely different. But they're a proud people who are extremely important in Hyrule 2 as they are the ones who deliver mail. In OoT, if you talk to the Gossip stones, you learn that the Zoras were once Hyrule's royal messengers during a war and that's why they have a good relationship now with good trade. At the top of the mountain they live on (which is a volcano) a dragon rests. This Dragon is called Volvagia (the Fire Temple boss from OoT) but this dragon now protects the bird people. You learn later that the mountain the bird people live on is actually Death Mountain, more on them later.
Gorons: You only meet them if you do the item trade mini-quest. They're in hiding and you can only tell that they're gorons if you get the camera just right. In the game, they never mention that they're Gorons, but they do say this: "I dont know how I got here... and i dont know how to get home." In OoT, the Goron's were so proud that they didn't want any help from anyone, and slowly their culture was being destroyed - They were losing their grasp on tradition which angered Darunia.
In Goron lore, the Fire Dragon Volvagia was once a protector of Death Mountain's Temple that one day turned evil and killed Gorons, this is why the Mountain was named Death Mountain. The Goron people called on a hero and this hero (A Goron) would carry the legendary Hammer to kill the Dragon, but a Goron hero did not appear. "This is a Goron problem!". Link is the one who carried the Hammer and destroyed the Dragon. Darunia accepted this and though the Goron's have officially lost their since of tradition (an outsider had to help them) they were comfortable in that idea, since they will now live on in peace. The Dragon (a spirit that was made real by Ganon) was laid to rest to return as the spiritual protector of the Fire Temple. Once its body was killed, Death Mountain returned to peace.
Ganon's evil power turned Volvagia in to a monster that killed Darunia (Making him the Sage of Fire). A part of the Prophecy that made the plot in OoT (It would seem that A.) You have to have the Sage blood in your viens and B.) You have to be killed by the Temple's spirit in order to become the sage). Now in WW, Volvagia is a protector once again and this time is being annoyed by a monster - In Wind Waker, the idea is to save the dragon on top of Death Mountain that is being tortured by a monster so it can protect its people. Essentially the same thing you did in OoT; Destroyed the evil essense of the Fire Temple spirit that is now a monster to bring peace back to Death Mountain.
On Dragon Roost island there is a young girl, she loves to play harp and dreams of greater things, a much bigger life somewhere off this island. She gets her wish, and she must contact her real life counterpart, a Zora girl who plays harp.
During this time, you have the Master Sword. But it has no power. By contacting these real world counterparts with their mirror images, you activate the sword. The sword has power in the real world, but in the Sacred Realm it has to find a path in to the real world in order to have it's power to banish evil.
Finally, behind your home island is a cave that is blocked by a stone wall. You destroy it and inside is a whale. It's Lord Jabu Jabu, he talks to you and tells you that he is in hiding and he wants to be left alone. The King (the boat) asks him for the Pearl (the other two you recieved after finishing dungeons) he coughs it up and you leave Jabu Jabu in peace.
In the real world of Hyrule, Lord Jabu Jabu was killed by Ganon. His spirit stays in the Sacred Realm to rest. You had to open his 'grave' and waken him from his resting place.
Examples like these make me believe that WW is a reflection of the real world within the Sacred Realm. And having this world with the same geographics of the real world makes sense.
When you kill Ganondorf, the dome covering Hyrule breaks open, and the water floods in. This is a representation of the real world; You have unfrozen time in the real Hyrule and life can continue as normal for them. But in the Sacred Realm, life continues - These people in WW will never leave the Sacred Realm because they're mirror images, not the real thing.
That's why I said it was really the blink of an eye. Ganon attacks Hyrule from the sacred realm, the God's freeze Hyrule in time, and brings all the spirits of Hyrule in to the Sacred Realm, including Link to defeat Ganondorf. Ganondorf's spirit is defeated and the sacred realm is cleansed which means Hyrule and the Sacred Realm are no longer in danger. They unfreeze time in the real world and the people are saved. There are two worlds now, Hyrule and the Golden Land (Hyrule 2) where the Triforce exists.
In WW's story they said that the hero didn't appear. That Link didn't come to save the day from Ganondorf. But he did in the Sacred Realm. Link did come to save the day and destroy Ganondorf but it was outside the realm of Hyrule.
Now in LttP, they say the Golden Land will become a horrible place because everyone wants the Triforce and a war breaks out. During that war, Ganondorf gains the Triforce and wishes for control of the world, the Triforce then makes the Golden Land in to the Dark World. So the world in WW, is the first steps of the Golden Land.
In LttP, Ganondorf is stuck in the Dark World and we never see him in LttP, so he creates Ganon, an image of his inner self and Aghinem a medium he uses to visit Hyrule and persuade the King.
Damn... my brain is starting to hurt.
This also works on a metaphorical scale with the new creatures.
In the story, there are two special people that must find their counterpart and 'activate' the link between them. For the Kokiri tree people you see a young boy who plays fiddle and looks almost like Link. For the bird people, you see a young female Zora that plays harp (Sheik's instrument)
Kokiri: The Kokiri are actual tree-people in WW. No longer the little children we saw. This could be because the Kokiri aren't children, they're forest elves that dont change appearance with age. Without the Deku tree, the elves will die. So they're basically a part of the Deku tree. One of them, the one that gets in the most trouble and plays a fiddle, is related to a Kokiri boy. This Kokiri boy is his 'real life' counter part, still frozen in time under the waves.
The bird people: A side from looking a little bit like the Zoras, they're completely different. But they're a proud people who are extremely important in Hyrule 2 as they are the ones who deliver mail. In OoT, if you talk to the Gossip stones, you learn that the Zoras were once Hyrule's royal messengers during a war and that's why they have a good relationship now with good trade. At the top of the mountain they live on (which is a volcano) a dragon rests. This Dragon is called Volvagia (the Fire Temple boss from OoT) but this dragon now protects the bird people. You learn later that the mountain the bird people live on is actually Death Mountain, more on them later.
Gorons: You only meet them if you do the item trade mini-quest. They're in hiding and you can only tell that they're gorons if you get the camera just right. In the game, they never mention that they're Gorons, but they do say this: "I dont know how I got here... and i dont know how to get home." In OoT, the Goron's were so proud that they didn't want any help from anyone, and slowly their culture was being destroyed - They were losing their grasp on tradition which angered Darunia.
In Goron lore, the Fire Dragon Volvagia was once a protector of Death Mountain's Temple that one day turned evil and killed Gorons, this is why the Mountain was named Death Mountain. The Goron people called on a hero and this hero (A Goron) would carry the legendary Hammer to kill the Dragon, but a Goron hero did not appear. "This is a Goron problem!". Link is the one who carried the Hammer and destroyed the Dragon. Darunia accepted this and though the Goron's have officially lost their since of tradition (an outsider had to help them) they were comfortable in that idea, since they will now live on in peace. The Dragon (a spirit that was made real by Ganon) was laid to rest to return as the spiritual protector of the Fire Temple. Once its body was killed, Death Mountain returned to peace.
Ganon's evil power turned Volvagia in to a monster that killed Darunia (Making him the Sage of Fire). A part of the Prophecy that made the plot in OoT (It would seem that A.) You have to have the Sage blood in your viens and B.) You have to be killed by the Temple's spirit in order to become the sage). Now in WW, Volvagia is a protector once again and this time is being annoyed by a monster - In Wind Waker, the idea is to save the dragon on top of Death Mountain that is being tortured by a monster so it can protect its people. Essentially the same thing you did in OoT; Destroyed the evil essense of the Fire Temple spirit that is now a monster to bring peace back to Death Mountain.
On Dragon Roost island there is a young girl, she loves to play harp and dreams of greater things, a much bigger life somewhere off this island. She gets her wish, and she must contact her real life counterpart, a Zora girl who plays harp.
During this time, you have the Master Sword. But it has no power. By contacting these real world counterparts with their mirror images, you activate the sword. The sword has power in the real world, but in the Sacred Realm it has to find a path in to the real world in order to have it's power to banish evil.
Finally, behind your home island is a cave that is blocked by a stone wall. You destroy it and inside is a whale. It's Lord Jabu Jabu, he talks to you and tells you that he is in hiding and he wants to be left alone. The King (the boat) asks him for the Pearl (the other two you recieved after finishing dungeons) he coughs it up and you leave Jabu Jabu in peace.
In the real world of Hyrule, Lord Jabu Jabu was killed by Ganon. His spirit stays in the Sacred Realm to rest. You had to open his 'grave' and waken him from his resting place.
Examples like these make me believe that WW is a reflection of the real world within the Sacred Realm. And having this world with the same geographics of the real world makes sense.
When you kill Ganondorf, the dome covering Hyrule breaks open, and the water floods in. This is a representation of the real world; You have unfrozen time in the real Hyrule and life can continue as normal for them. But in the Sacred Realm, life continues - These people in WW will never leave the Sacred Realm because they're mirror images, not the real thing.
That's why I said it was really the blink of an eye. Ganon attacks Hyrule from the sacred realm, the God's freeze Hyrule in time, and brings all the spirits of Hyrule in to the Sacred Realm, including Link to defeat Ganondorf. Ganondorf's spirit is defeated and the sacred realm is cleansed which means Hyrule and the Sacred Realm are no longer in danger. They unfreeze time in the real world and the people are saved. There are two worlds now, Hyrule and the Golden Land (Hyrule 2) where the Triforce exists.
In WW's story they said that the hero didn't appear. That Link didn't come to save the day from Ganondorf. But he did in the Sacred Realm. Link did come to save the day and destroy Ganondorf but it was outside the realm of Hyrule.
Now in LttP, they say the Golden Land will become a horrible place because everyone wants the Triforce and a war breaks out. During that war, Ganondorf gains the Triforce and wishes for control of the world, the Triforce then makes the Golden Land in to the Dark World. So the world in WW, is the first steps of the Golden Land.
In LttP, Ganondorf is stuck in the Dark World and we never see him in LttP, so he creates Ganon, an image of his inner self and Aghinem a medium he uses to visit Hyrule and persuade the King.
Damn... my brain is starting to hurt.