24th February 2003, 7:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by alien space marine
It would be a bad thing! Even the united states must abide by the law.You cant go in and invade and conquere anybody you choose freely, it would be the end of order and the begining of probaily many different world wars.
On the contrary, we're taking out Iraq to prevent the chaos that would unquestionably happen should Saddam get a usable weapon. The greatest evil a man can do is to do nothing.
Quote:If you been robbed you call the police and have the theif arrested, you dont go out on your own and take justice into your own hands.
I agree. But what if the police refused to do anything about it? Are you supposed to just accept it and be at their mercy? The UN is doing nothing about the problem it faces, they hope it will just go away. That won't happen.
Quote:Whout some kind of international agreement it would be choas just like it was in 1914 and 1939.
Hardly. In 1914 there were a lot of nationalists and imperialists looking to dominate their neighbors. While the ensuing war was worse than any before it, wars had been started for the same reason a hundred times before. And in 1939, everything collapsed because the UN's predecessor, the League of Nations, was doing exactly to Germany what the UN is doing for Iraq: Appeasement. THAT was a huge factor in Hitler's expansion, the failure of the League of Nations to do its job, and history repeats itself.
Quote:The UN got inspectors in Irag and so far they have found nothing , Sure Suddam probaily has hidden it but attacking Irag will rash without a just reason. It is Bush seniors fault for this current hardship if he had only gone the hole way and eliminated suddam long ago non of this would be happening.
Of course the inspectors find nothing, it's all being hidden. Of course, none of the KNOWN weapons have been accounted for either. But here's the thing: It's not up to us to prove they have the weapons: it's up to THEM to prove they don't. They were the ones defeated in the war, they were the ones that had the UN resolution passed against them, therefore the burden of proof is on Iraq to prove to the world that they are behaving. And they are doing just the opposite. Their actions make obvious the fact that they have weapons of destruction. If they had nothing to hide, they'd be free with the proof of that. That they resist is reason enough for war.
Quote:The U.S has killed more people with weapons of Mass destruction then anybody else (hiroshima and nagasaski) the U.S could show some responsibility by not only destroying its arsenal but banning all Nukes in the world.
Well, aside from the fact that your scenario is idealistic and unrealistic, the point must be made that we gave Japan ample warning that we were going to create two hot new craters on their cities. They refused to listen, and they paid the price. It also must be noted that we've never used any since then. And we never would without the most extreme provocation. We don't go around bashing the skulls of our neigbors for no reason. The United States is as stable a nation as you'll ever find. We would NEVER use them except as the ultimate last restult.
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