15th April 2004, 4:49 PM
OB1: Look at older, arcadish/"console style" PC games... the arrow keys, with control and alt as action buttons, was the norm you know... that lasted until... hmm, Quake? Somewhere around there when they switched to WASD and the mouse instead of arrow keys and control/alt/space like all the action games up until after Doom...
Just saying that it's not as simple a picture as you paint. :)
Or I could mention Tomb Raider again.
I can't see what this has to do with that statement of mine.
So you've always quicksaved before every room of every game you've ever played with quicksaving in it and never lost more than a minuite or two of gameplay? Somehow I doubt that. Next time think things through before you say them!
That's because it ISN'T a monumental difference. It's essentially the same as any other digital form of control, such as a d-pad. The fact that it's fingers, and not the thumb, isn't very relevant. Fine, it's less precise with four directions instead or many. And three speeds is less than however many are in the console versions. But you know what? I don't see a difference between those four buttons and a Nintendo crosspad... sure it's thumb vs fingers, but how does that matter much?
And for gameplay purposes the analog speeds are not necessary to play. Oh it makes the game easier perhaps, but it's not NECESSARY. I survived with a D-Pad in Rogue Squadron and Rayman 2, after all...
You know, like usual, it's not that I utterly dislike your opinions, but how you present them. If like a normal human being you thought about it and said 'I think that using the mouse isn't as good as using a joystick', I'd agree. But you don't. You go off on wild exaggerations, making insane statements that I can't help but disagree with even if I agree with part of it... you need to THINK! Wild exagerations don't get anyone anywhere. Acting like your opinion is the only valid one doesn't either. Thought and moderation help a lot... okay it's not possible all of the time, I'll certainly admit that, but you don't seem to try at ALL...
Fine, the mouse is a bit inferior to a joystick. Okay. That is true. But in a few hours you'll get used to it. You don't constantly move the camera anyway... most of the time the mouse serves well enough. And it provides for accurate pointing at things, and for movement too (remember that you will turn if you're going forward and moving the camera) at times when you want... fine it's not quite as good. But you go far, far overboard in your ranting about how much worse it is. That's the problem here.
Just saying that it's not as simple a picture as you paint. :)
Or I could mention Tomb Raider again.
Quote:You make me sick. BG&E is one of the best games of 2003 and all you can do is complain. Go back to playing shit like Gauntlet, ABF.
I can't see what this has to do with that statement of mine.
Quote:With quicksave you can save wherever and whenever you want to!! Just because you're too damn lazy to press one key doesn't change the fact that it makes games much easier!
So you've always quicksaved before every room of every game you've ever played with quicksaving in it and never lost more than a minuite or two of gameplay? Somehow I doubt that. Next time think things through before you say them!
Quote:You don't get it. You're moving the character with your fingers when you should be moving her with a super-precise analog thumb stick. The fact that you cannot see that monumental difference shows your inability to differentiate between good and bad controls.
That's because it ISN'T a monumental difference. It's essentially the same as any other digital form of control, such as a d-pad. The fact that it's fingers, and not the thumb, isn't very relevant. Fine, it's less precise with four directions instead or many. And three speeds is less than however many are in the console versions. But you know what? I don't see a difference between those four buttons and a Nintendo crosspad... sure it's thumb vs fingers, but how does that matter much?
And for gameplay purposes the analog speeds are not necessary to play. Oh it makes the game easier perhaps, but it's not NECESSARY. I survived with a D-Pad in Rogue Squadron and Rayman 2, after all...
Quote:You can also play Soul Calibur with a Dreamcast fishing controller, but if you can't tell that it's a billion times worse than using a joystick you're out of your mind. You sir are out of your mind.
You know, like usual, it's not that I utterly dislike your opinions, but how you present them. If like a normal human being you thought about it and said 'I think that using the mouse isn't as good as using a joystick', I'd agree. But you don't. You go off on wild exaggerations, making insane statements that I can't help but disagree with even if I agree with part of it... you need to THINK! Wild exagerations don't get anyone anywhere. Acting like your opinion is the only valid one doesn't either. Thought and moderation help a lot... okay it's not possible all of the time, I'll certainly admit that, but you don't seem to try at ALL...
Fine, the mouse is a bit inferior to a joystick. Okay. That is true. But in a few hours you'll get used to it. You don't constantly move the camera anyway... most of the time the mouse serves well enough. And it provides for accurate pointing at things, and for movement too (remember that you will turn if you're going forward and moving the camera) at times when you want... fine it's not quite as good. But you go far, far overboard in your ranting about how much worse it is. That's the problem here.